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Nov 6 2012 12:56am
Quote (dtth @ Nov 5 2012 06:14pm)
hey bro,

am looking to upgrade parts of my DH gears.

would appreciate if you could LMK which are the items i should upgrade first.

am a legacy nat DH. :)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/llllllllllll-1316/hero/12882989


100% get a legacy helm, no point of using that set at all unless you got 4 pieces for the discipline regen :D
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Nov 6 2012 06:13am
Quote (Goldii @ 6 Nov 2012 08:36)
iam trying to build me now a Demon hunter, and iam not sure about  few things what to pick:

the build i have currently in my mind
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aiXdgV!efY!caZbYb

i like sentry also, but iam not sure what to remove for it. also i read that alot of ppl have problems with the hatred, so 1 more skill which needs hatred is maybe not that effective when i always have to low hatred.. also iam interested to use the raven with life/resi boost (i think its a pig..^^) same problem here: which skill shell i maybe remove for it, or lets say, does it worth it ? which rune to use on Hungering arrow is also a big question. i saw around 3 or 4 posibilities... what are you guys using and why ?

for my passive skills, there is a huge bunch of possibilities, and iam really not sure what to use^^ since i want to have a good survivability, i think perfection is a must. archery is a must have too, so there is just 1 slot to switch, but thats my problem.
there are so many options, that iam not sure what to use. steady aim sounds pretty nice. also iam wondering why i should not use sharpshooter. got it nerved or why does so less DHs use it at the moment ?
do you guys have other ideas for builds ? iam free for everything :)


the next couple of questions are about the  items i should use. first of all, i will have a budge of around 200mio igg, maybe a bit more or less..

as weapon i think i will use windforce. it seems really to be a cool bow. also i like kitting so i prefer high attack speed. but everything i read is "take a manticore noob". i hate the style also, so it is a hard decision..^^
als i think iam gonna use natalya set. this is a clear decision without other compareable options. for belt, iam thinking about a dex witching our but iam not sure if a innas belt+pants would make a better job... anyone got some experience with that ?
vile wards with dex/vita, and a dead mans for sure.. strong arm bracers, and a nice rare amu/gloves


thats it for the moment, would be nice if anyone could help me with those hard decisions^^

P.S.: since i have no clue, iam wondering what i use on singletargets: Hungering Arrow or Elemtary Arrow ?




btw, i found some DHs which are using the old Natalya set which regenerates Discipline. Which set is better, and how much is the price for a good one ?


would be great if any1 could answer my questions today since i want to buy some items later that day when iam at home again :D
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Nov 6 2012 06:46am
Quote (Goldii @ Nov 6 2012 02:13am)
would be great if any1 could answer my questions today since i want to buy some items later that day when iam at home again :D


Well your skill calculator shows a very standard build used for a long long time. The problem with it is that you lack a heavy hitting skill, and you filled up your bar with defensive abilities. IMO Smokescreen is worthless if you build correctly and can dodge frozens and stuff effectively. Gloom + Vault + Prep are pretty standard for any non legacy build.

Hungering arrow vs Bola is a very tough choice at the moment, I side with Bola as its much more effective against large groups and can be great for single target (ubers) if you spec thunderball. It does mean you need a direct attack to avoid getting splattered by fast movers like fallen maniacs, depending on your gear choices multishot or ball lightning are usually the go to skills.

You should still spec a nuke if possible, spike traps are the best bang for the buck hatred wise but cluster arrows are also nice.

I'm a huge hater of steady aim as I find that its nearly impossible to keep enemies away from you at all times, at some point you are going to have to just tank which kills the bonus damage. Tactical advantage is good for speed, vengeance is good for hatred/disc problems, night stalker is great for disc regen if you use high proc skills. Obviously there are some new skills that have great uses such as custom engineering if you use a trap/sentry based build.

I kind of voiced my opinion on Legacy vs New nats/hybrid builds a couple pages back, I prefer legacy but many don't. A good set will cost you 1bil+ at minimum.

Inna's belt + pants = more dps than witching hour + inna's pants, but stat sheet dps vs real world can vary. Attack speed generates hatred that you can spend to nuke things.

Take a manticore noob comments are because on the stat sheet you get tons of DPS. You also have HUGE burst damage but there is always a sacrifice. Windforce is fun I love mine and I make it work, I would just as happily take a nice double crit rev bow though if it had the right mods. Really depends on what you are going for :D
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Nov 6 2012 06:48am
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Bola Shot - Acid Strike
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Sentry - Guardian Turret
Vault - Tumble

Perfectionist
Numbing Traps
Archery


This does work very well, t4t!

would appreciate some advice on which item I should replace first. I'm thinking the belt, but I'm too poor to buy a witching hour

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Waeg-1238/hero/25195902
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Nov 6 2012 06:59am
Quote (steroidmax @ Nov 6 2012 02:48am)
This does work very well, t4t!

would appreciate some advice on which item I should replace first.  I'm thinking the belt, but I'm too poor to buy a witching hour

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Waeg-1238/hero/25195902


Thanks :D

If you commit to a primary skill like Bola a Dead Man's with higher ASI and 12%+ bonus damage would be great, you can pick them up REALLY cheap now with near perfect stats (except double rolled or max disc ones). Andariel's helm with double dex/vit roll or a socket might be a good option since you will need the attack speed using a crossbow, you will lose EHP though unless you can get a mempo somehow.
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Nov 6 2012 07:45am
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/quintex-2116/Linyah/862701

Dont mind my skillset.. thats the problem.

I am unsure what skills i should be using. I want to be very tanky but still maintain a good DPS which i have accomplished with gloom+prep the last 4 skills is what i am unsure about..

For farming, elites what would be better? I dont feel comfortable with cluster arrow, feels awkward to use.. :cry:
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Nov 6 2012 10:13am
What are the best hand crossbows for a tank?

I already have a Dexterity stormshield. Should I use it with a 1 hand crossbow... or sell it and get 2x 1 hand xbows?

Also wondering if I need tons of life on hit... I already have 400+ blackthorne pants

This post was edited by ITheBreather on Nov 6 2012 10:27am
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What are the best hand crossbows for a tank?

I already have a Dexterity stormshield. Should I use it with a 1 hand crossbow... or sell it and get 2x 1 hand xbows?

Also wondering if I need tons of life on hit... I already have 400+ blackthorne pants


Deadmans quiver with any 2h or 1h xbow/box i believe.. deadmans has hatred regen, possible disc, alot of vit and dex.. I tank mp8 ghom uber with it actually.. You want your DH to be completely immortal?
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Nov 6 2012 11:35am
Quote (D4rk50ul @ 6 Nov 2012 14:46)
Well your skill calculator shows a very standard build used for a long long time.  The problem with it is that you lack a heavy hitting skill, and you filled up your bar with defensive abilities.  IMO Smokescreen is worthless if you build correctly and can dodge frozens and stuff effectively.  Gloom + Vault + Prep are pretty standard for any non legacy build.

Hungering arrow vs Bola is a very tough choice at the moment, I side with Bola as its much more effective against large groups and can be great for single target (ubers) if you spec thunderball.  It does mean you need a direct attack to avoid getting splattered by fast movers like fallen maniacs, depending on your gear choices multishot or ball lightning are usually the go to skills.

You should still spec a nuke if possible, spike traps are the best bang for the buck hatred wise but cluster arrows are also nice.

I'm a huge hater of steady aim as I find that its nearly impossible to keep enemies away from you at all times, at some point you are going to have to just tank which kills the bonus damage.  Tactical advantage is good for speed, vengeance is good for hatred/disc problems, night stalker is great for disc regen if you use high proc skills.  Obviously there are some new skills that have great uses such as custom engineering if you use a trap/sentry based build.

I kind of voiced my opinion on Legacy vs New nats/hybrid builds a couple pages back, I prefer legacy but many don't.  A good set will cost you 1bil+ at minimum.

Inna's belt + pants = more dps than witching hour + inna's pants, but stat sheet dps vs real world can vary.  Attack speed generates hatred that you can spend to nuke things.

Take a manticore noob comments are because on the stat sheet you get tons of DPS.  You also have HUGE burst damage but there is always a sacrifice.  Windforce is fun I love mine and I make it work, I would just as happily take a nice double crit rev bow though if it had the right mods.  Really depends on what you are going for :D


thanks for your help dude :) i will come back to you soon for mor advices :D
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Nov 6 2012 12:04pm
Hey folks,

Looking for some comments on my DH build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShipSoo-1233/hero/6805587

Changed over from 1.04 Nats to this. I just couldn't make 24% move speed work and get resists/life.

So I changed to this setup (wow does Innas add damage!!), but didn't change any skills yet. I had dropped preparation in favor of Rain of Vengeance, but I may need to put it back in or use Nightstalker.

What do you all think? I really like the grenades/cluster/grenadier combo and with my shiney new Deadman's Cluster only costs 35 ! So I can basically spam it with the Bat.

i thought about taking out the bat for Boar, and replacing steady aim for nightstalker/perfectionist since I think Steady aim works terribly in actual use.

This post was edited by Josiphos on Nov 6 2012 12:04pm
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