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#111
Jul 16 2012 12:04am
Quote (WomW @ Jul 16 2012 06:03am)
You do realize that some affixes are Str *and* Vit in a single affix, right?

Also, as I said, they're only describing the unidentified item, nothing more.


I said that in the exact post you quoted, so yes I realize it
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#112
Jul 16 2012 12:05am
Quote (WomW @ Jul 16 2012 05:58am)
No. The stats linked in there are basically pointing to a "stat ID" and a "value range" for the stat. Some stats don't have ranges at all, some do. (On weapons, there's min/max damage, and attacks per second) Then you also have the required level, item level, and "generic" rarity (for the sake of argument Rare4/Legendary qualities). Then on top of that, you have another field that tells what actual *type* of item it is (Axe, bow, shield, armor, cloak, etc)

The number of fields in the item link string are really irrelevant, as they're "enough to show the item as a tooltip" and a few fluff items (such as the -1 placeholders for stuff like shields, etc which have block% on top of their normal armor value stuff, and weapons in general)

@fyyer; there's 11 rarities.

Inferior, Normal, Superior, Magic1, Magic2, Magic3, Rare4, Rare5, Rare6, Legendary, and "Special". The # after the name corresponds to how many affixes it has. (No idea what "Special" is, I haven't seen an item with it yet)

But wouldn't that mean that every Heaven Hand should have the same number of fields (they all have a dps, a min dmg, a max dmg, etc)? But in this example from him, you can see that some Heaven Hands have more fields than others. The bolded fields are the ones that are different and seem, from what I've IDd in-game as well, to indicate the number of property rolls the items have (unid there are only 2 codes that change once IDd).

Item:2,1236607151:393887885:1055553278,1176553157,1055553278,1176553157,1055553278:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:365:365:0:0:7:0:-834805361:|h[Heaven Hand]|h

Item:2,1236607151:1850111524:1055553278,1176553157,1176553157,1176553157:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:448:448:0:0:6:0:1510209806:|h[Heaven Hand]|h

Item:2,1236607151:1865415990:1176553157,1176553157,1176553157,1055553278,1176553157,1055553278:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:362:362:0:0:8:0:649161796:|h[Heaven Hand]|h

This post was edited by Neuromancer on Jul 16 2012 12:06am
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#113
Jul 16 2012 12:06am
i think that one of these indicates a socket:
1176553157,1055553278

tried it on 2 unids, both rolled with a socket
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#114
Jul 16 2012 12:06am
Not to exploit the game, but I enjoy puzzles and statistics and am curious if I can make anything of these numbers. If you have several ID please pm me:

Lvl item, type item, code pre id, code after id (include stats)

Thanks! Wanting a LARGE sample size. Please lvl 60+ items only

I have chose to stick with items 60-63 for simplicity, I would be open to doing other levels but all I need is consistency, I am open to recommendations
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#115
Jul 16 2012 12:07am
Quote (fyyer @ Jul 16 2012 02:04am)
I said that in the exact post you quoted, so yes I realize it


Yeah, sorry. Reading a lot of replies really quickly. My apologies!

I edited the post with a better explanation of how the item linking works. (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63840602&f=68&p=426237198)
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#116
Jul 16 2012 12:07am
Quote (seprez. @ Jul 15 2012 11:06pm)
i think that one of these indicates a socket:
1176553157,1055553278

tried it on 2 unids, both rolled with a socket




1055553278 I got that for socket too
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#117
Jul 16 2012 12:08am
Quote (WomW @ Jul 16 2012 01:58am)
No. The stats linked in there are basically pointing to a "stat ID" and a "value range" for the stat. Some stats don't have ranges at all, some do. (On weapons, there's min/max damage, and attacks per second) Then you also have the required level, item level, and "generic" rarity (for the sake of argument Rare4/Legendary qualities). Then on top of that, you have another field that tells what actual *type* of item it is (Axe, bow, shield, armor, cloak, etc)

The number of fields in the item link string are really irrelevant, as they're "enough to show the item as a tooltip" and a few fluff items (such as the -1 placeholders for stuff like shields, etc which have block% on top of their normal armor value stuff, and weapons in general)

@fyyer; there's 11 rarities.

Inferior, Normal, Superior, Magic1, Magic2, Magic3, Rare4, Rare5, Rare6, Legendary, and "Special". The # after the name corresponds to how many affixes it has. (No idea what "Special" is, I haven't seen an item with it yet)


seems reasonable. im getting exact or very close correlation so far on all my unids though (in terms of 4, 5, or 6 properties)

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Item:2,-1303413118:1257057165:1176553157,1176553157,1055553278,1055553278:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:595:595:0:0:6:0:1993232357:|h[Darkblade]|h 4 props

Item:2,-1303413118:-1738806333:1176553157,1055553278,1055553278,1176553157:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:649:649:0:0:6:0:2006522773:|h[Darkblade]|h 4 props

Item:2,-1303413118:-399506380:1176553157,1176553157,1055553278,1176553157,1176553157,1055553278:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:514:514:0:0:8:0:-891994816:|h[Darkblade]|h 6 props

Item:2,-1303413118:-525645163:1176553157,1055553278,1176553157,1055553278,1176553157:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:513:513:0:0:7:0:-1034924958:|h[Darkblade]|h 5 props

Item:2,-1303413118:-294818293:1055553278,1176553157,1176553157,1176553157,1176553157:-1:0:-1:-1:-1:8:567:567:0:0:7:0:2013208669:|h[Darkblade]|h 5 props


in bold is what i predicted, heres what i got

1. 205-496 arcane dmg, 46% dmg, +108 dex, socket

2. 169-458 arcane dmg, 33% dmg, +114 dex, +182 vit

3. +9 min dmg, 84-274 poison dmg, +128 str, +150 dex, +151 vit, +935 loh, socket

4. +22 min dmg, 248-418 arcane dmg, 24% dmg, +323 loh, 62% crit dmg

5. +78 min dmg, +175 max dmg, +185 str, +162 dex, 11% ias

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#118
Jul 16 2012 12:08am
this also works on items that were id'd
just use the code from that to make sense of it genius

This post was edited by tomhawk on Jul 16 2012 12:09am
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#119
Jul 16 2012 12:08am
Quote (Kayotics @ Jul 16 2012 01:04am)
wonder what will happen to the price of unids?..



Nothing..people will gamble regardless, if this had any relevance at all to determining if an unid'd item was worth anything more then what you can get unid'd I am pretty sure one of those websites that supports exploiting and cheating would of had this one down and posted after launch, again this is nothing new and has been going on since Day 1..nothing is consistent enough to determine anything special about the unid'd item, its nothing more then an annoyance

Wonder how long this rumor will last ? about the same as Session ID spoofing I assume
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#120
Jul 16 2012 12:09am
Quote (LEON69 @ Jul 16 2012 06:08am)
seems reasonable. im getting exact or very close correlation so far on all my unids though (in terms of 4, 5, or 6 properties)



in bold is what i predicted, heres what i got

1. 205-496 arcane dmg, 46% dmg, +108 dex, socket

2. 169-458 arcane dmg, 33% dmg, +114 dex, +182 vit

3. +9 min dmg, 84-274 poison dmg, +128 str, +150 dex, +151 vit, +935 loh, socket

4. +22 min dmg, 248-418 arcane dmg, 24% dmg, +323 loh, 62% crit dmg

5. +78 min dmg, +175 max dmg, +185 str, +162 dex, 11% ias



There will be slight variance since some affixes have multiple attributes which could explain your extra socket (one item code affix might = +24 str +13 vit for example), but in general it's pretty clear what we have here.

This post was edited by fyyer on Jul 16 2012 12:10am
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