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Apr 16 2013 07:37pm
So guys, I need some advice on what the best mp10 elite solo farm builds are. I have a 2 -hander and I have 3 1 -handers, but im not sure which is most efficient. I have a WKL/EF combo and I have a Shadow Breaker, and a Skorn. Feel free to refer to my armory http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gavman-1647/hero/31627319 for any more info. Id just like to know the most efficient builds right now. Thank you in advance for any help.

This post was edited by Gavtheman on Apr 16 2013 07:38pm
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Apr 16 2013 08:53pm
just got back playing and was looking to rebuild a monk.
Already got some gear on bids, and a current budget of 500m.

What should i go for? I've seen some ef + wkl combos, ls skorns, and rare dual wield ones...how do each work for each build?
And how about skills? i've seen that palm one that is pretty common now, but found it kinda hard to use, so went to 3x regen skill...

Also lmk any other tips that can help...mainly looking for a build that can farm mp5 and maybe a switch for mp10 ubbers.

Here's my current: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rmc-1926/hero/27781447

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Apr 16 2013 10:02pm
Quote (Gavtheman @ Apr 16 2013 06:37pm)
So guys, I need some advice on what the best mp10 elite solo farm builds are. I have a 2 -hander and I have 3 1 -handers, but im not sure which is most efficient. I have a WKL/EF combo and I have a Shadow Breaker, and a Skorn. Feel free to refer to my armory http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gavman-1647/hero/31627319 for any more info. Id just like to know the most efficient builds right now. Thank you in advance for any help.


Quote (DesTTTTT @ Apr 16 2013 07:53pm)
just got back playing and was looking to rebuild a monk.
Already got some gear on bids, and a current budget of 500m.

What should i go for? I've seen some ef + wkl combos, ls skorns, and rare dual wield ones...how do each work for each build?
And how about skills? i've seen that palm one that is pretty common now, but found it kinda hard to use, so went to 3x regen skill...

Also lmk any other tips that can help...mainly looking for a build that can farm mp5 and maybe a switch for mp10 ubbers.

Here's my current: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rmc-1926/hero/27781447

Ty.




There are so many options right now with Monk.
3 x regen skill build seems popular
2 x regen + palm
2 x regen + Bell
TR / Bell / Skorn

Weapons for dual weild ... Rare, WKL, EF, BS
The choices are up to your budget and play style.

Right now I am using 2 x regen + bell + TR for super speed between packs ... mobility to get out of bad situations.
Also like the TR / Bell / Skorn build
Gonna try 2 x regen + bell + palm + overawe + cyclones.

Play with whatever you are comfortable with.

This post was edited by MONKster on Apr 16 2013 10:16pm
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Apr 16 2013 10:28pm
Speed Palm owns the mp10 with the non ef set up.

But like monkster said there are various builds that work well on mp10.

Combo beacon sti are great passive combo with blinding faith.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Apr 16 2013 10:32pm
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Apr 16 2013 11:25pm
Quote (MONKster @ Apr 16 2013 07:32pm)
Just passing on some insteresting info ... Emerald vs Ruby in MH
I did not do the testing:

Someone did testing and posted:


"So I did some calculations to compare the relative effects of ruby in MH vs. emerald in MH
On DW setup, and came up with these numbers on a per target basis:

Emerald in MH
Sheet DPS: 139K
MH Weapon Damage: 80,377
Buffed WoL Damage: 1,620,148
Buffed WoL DPS: 2,467,161
Unbuffed SW Damage: 108,396

Ruby in MH
Sheet DPS: 134K
MH Weapon Damage: 82,405
Buffed WoL Damage: 1,661,026
Buffed WoL DPS: 2,529,410
Unbuffed SW Damage: 104,418

The scenario with the ruby in MH gives 62,249 damage more than emerald on a per bell basis,
and 186,748 on a WoL DPS while the difference in the unbuffed SW damage would only yield ~4K DPS in favour of emerald.
Based on that math, it would reason that for builds that are heavily WoL dependent on damage, I'd say that Ruby in MH > Emerald in MH."


good stuff. i think that the faster your weapon or aps is the better the ruby is because it's 160-160 more damage per hit(assuming marquiss). if you have 2.5 aps with dual wield you're doing 160-160 more damage from gem at 2.5 attacks per second. and on the other hand if you go with skorn with like 1.5 aps then your doing 160-160 more damage but attack only 1.5 times a second. so something like sword/fist with ias mod would benefit a lot more from ruby than a slow 2 hander.
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Apr 16 2013 11:41pm
Quote (MONKster @ Apr 16 2013 10:02pm)
There are so many options right now with Monk.
3 x regen skill build seems popular
2 x regen + palm
2 x regen + Bell
TR / Bell / Skorn

Weapons for dual weild ... Rare, WKL, EF, BS
The choices are up to your budget and play style.

Right now I am using 2 x regen + bell + TR for super speed between packs ... mobility to get out of bad situations.
Also like the TR / Bell / Skorn build
Gonna try 2 x regen + bell + palm + overawe + cyclones.

Play with whatever you are comfortable with.

Quote (jinshin85 @ Apr 16 2013 10:28pm)
Speed Palm owns the mp10 with the non ef set up.

But like monkster said there are various builds that work well on mp10.

Combo beacon sti are great passive combo with blinding faith.


Thanks for advice! Appreciate it. I think 750+ AR is required for mp10 farm. I think that was my main problem. But the skill setups really helped too. Thanks!

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Apr 16 2013 11:49pm
Quote (Gavtheman @ Apr 17 2013 04:41pm)
Thanks for advice! Appreciate it. I think 750+ AR is required for mp10 farm. I think that was my main problem. But the skill setups really helped too. Thanks!


There will always be some variation to every monk build or any character build. Some do well with less HP/more AR and others with more HP/less AR. If you've found a level of comfort and you're clearing mp10 with little difficulty, then just stick with that. My monk has 626 resists, but the DPS is higher and currently it's at 308k unbuffed. It's dependent on a lot of factors.
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Apr 17 2013 12:31am
Quote (MONKster @ Apr 16 2013 03:32pm)

The scenario with the ruby in MH gives 62,249 damage more than emerald on a per bell basis,
and 186,748 on a WoL DPS while the difference in the unbuffed SW damage would only yield ~4K DPS in favour of emerald.
Based on that math, it would reason that for builds that are heavily WoL dependent on damage, I'd say that Ruby in MH > Emerald in MH."


Exactly. I have been using ruby-based 2h skorn builds since PTR :P
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Apr 17 2013 12:33am
308 unbuffed? Holy fuck..
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Apr 17 2013 12:33am
Quote (Inh @ Apr 16 2013 09:25pm)
good stuff. i think that the faster your weapon or aps is the better the ruby is because it's 160-160 more damage per hit(assuming marquiss).  if you have 2.5 aps with dual wield you're doing 160-160 more damage from gem at 2.5 attacks per second. and on the other hand if you go with skorn with like 1.5 aps then your doing 160-160 more damage but attack only 1.5 times a second. so something like sword/fist with ias mod would benefit a lot more from ruby than a slow 2 hander.


It doesn't exactly work like that (scaling with APS). APS favors both about equally. The difference is in how crit-dependant your build is. In general, Ruby > Emerald for NON-CYCLONE builds, because they aren't as crit dependent, hence avg dmg scales better (so does dex).

edit: while it's true that the net ruby bonus is larger with a higher aps (or chd, crit, etc), slower weapons already have higher damage ranges to compensate for the slower attack. That being said, there is also the matter of the multiplier bug for black weapons, which means ideally, you'd have a fast black dmg weapon with a high top end to take the most advantage of a ruby.

This post was edited by kylezo on Apr 17 2013 12:45am
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