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Nov 26 2012 08:45am
Quote (TCAvenger @ Nov 26 2012 04:34pm)
Hi,

I am not sure which weapons in which combination I should use. I have three weaspons for the moment.
Number1 (Echoing Fury):
http://i48.tinypic.com/x1wnpd.jpg

Number2 (Dagger):
http://i49.tinypic.com/w98n7p.jpg

Number3 (Axe):
http://i49.tinypic.com/wsmc02.jpg

My armor parts give me 52%Ias. So I guess I get with Echoing Fury and Axe the same speed as with Echoing Fury and Dagger. Am I right? Is there any difference when I swap Echoing Fury to offhand and Axe to mainhand?
Thx for help!

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IMO, axe mainhand and echo offhand

echo and axe

1.51 x 1.92 = 2.8992

echo and dagger

1.71 x 1.92 = 3.2832

same speed 10tps, though the dagger can hit nearly 12 tps (3.33334-4.00000 aps ) if you get more ias on gear

As it is, I recommend axe mh / echo oh though


Quote (ButtPirate7 @ Nov 26 2012 08:37am)
damn so u tellin me id have to hit 8k armor, 700 all res and 8.5% + LS to handle higher mp reflect health link  :wacko: lame lol.  Well this was with war cry dropped so ill try it with standard ww with war cry.



This is why I always recommend barbs to get 8-9 lifesteal, you can see 300k+ dps buffed barbs with 3 lifesteal, its cool its enough for 90% of all mobs, but it gives you issues vs reflect, health link, and imagine reflect health link goat shamans with the shield up TROLOL. Also a lot of high dps barbs take a big shit on their ehp which gives more issues with reflect etc. Its all abt finding a good balance, kinda like detox does.

Me personally I roll with full lifesteal (11-12), gg :)
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Nov 26 2012 10:06am
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LOYAL-1335/hero/22506025

got 25m to spend now ;D was thinking mempho and perhaps a beter amu/rings, what u guys think?

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Nov 26 2012 11:42am
Hello guys! Just made a barb yesterday and am loving it. Still can't believe how strong barbs are even with average gear.

My profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jcheng-1485/hero/25188192

I've been reading this whole thread and am slightly confused. Would you guys recommend stacking ias gear (over crit-damage) in order to reach breakpoints? I know that ideally, it would be best to have both but it depends on total budget.

And if anyone could give me some simple suggestions towards gearing, it would be more than welcome!
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Nov 26 2012 12:18pm
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Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 26 2012 04:45pm)
same speed 10tps, though the dagger can hit nearly 12 tps (3.33334-4.00000 aps ) if you get more ias on gear

53% Ias I guess, the question is one breakpoint on one weapon or 7,8k dam more.


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Nov 26 2012 12:22pm
Quote (TCAvenger @ Nov 26 2012 08:18pm)
Hi,


53% Ias I guess:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2wqdc8i.jpg

Regards



55 ias, so he needs another item with ias.
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Nov 26 2012 01:32pm
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Nov 26 2012 05:43pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 26 2012 08:22pm)
55 ias, so he needs another item with ias.


yes, you are right. For WOTB. I will use Axe and EF, I think it's best for me.
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Quote (TCAvenger @ Nov 27 2012 01:43am)
yes, you are right. For WOTB. I will use Axe and EF, I think it's best for me.



yes EF also increases your mh aps and overall dps for other attacks like hota / bash etc while dagger wont. I truly believe as of this patch, there are no better choices than axe or mace (i am of the mace voting side) / ef for weapons, since you can easily reach 10tps with them too. ANd 10 tps is already overkill imo.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 26 2012 06:23pm
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Nov 26 2012 06:39pm
So, when I do lvling alkaiser runs, I do change my skills to ww/weapon throw barb set up since it's the fastest.

I did pick up some cheap EF + threehundredth for this and I get like 2.56 aps for both weapon with my current gear.

Is this good enough to keep the wotb? How much aps should I aim for to be wotb for the entire run? Is it better to do the run on little bit higher mp than 1?

Thanks.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Nov 26 2012 06:48pm
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Nov 26 2012 06:40pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 26 2012 05:22pm)
yes EF also increases your mh aps and overall dps for other attacks like hota / bash etc while dagger wont. I truly believe as of this patch, there are no better choices than axe or mace (i am of the mace voting side) / ef for weapons, since you can easily reach 10tps with them too. ANd 10 tps is already overkill imo.


yes mace/EF is the best combo atm. both weapons being 1.4x base

i dont even go for 10tps.. altho I would if I had an unlimited budget :)

2.5aps in wotb is plenty for me.. rather focus on other stats then ias.. especially since I use a SOJ so I cant use 2 ias rings..

but.. 10tps with soj would be AMAZING if i could keep the same other stats..

This post was edited by Tboner on Nov 26 2012 06:41pm
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