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Nov 5 2012 04:36am
Quote (D4rk50ul @ Nov 5 2012 10:23am)


O.k. this is one of those never ending debates. I prefer taking the huge EHP/damage hit to run legacy, but that doesn't mean my choice is the right one. I have builds that require all skill slots and prep is never one of them, plus if you get 40 total disc with legacy nats you pretty much never run out (you can perma gloom with base disc which is what I use). It costs more to gear legacy not because of the actual nat's pieces, but how godly you need the rest of your gear to be to compensate for its lack of stats.

I watch streams and one guy runs new nats with the typical manticore style build but having max disc on EVERYTHING he can get it on. Pretty effective but then you get into which is truly better if thats what you need to do to compensate for lack of regen. You lose the possible double rolled dex/vit on dead man's because Max disc takes its place. You have max disc on your cloak when you could have had all res/armor/more dex/vit. You STILL need prep even with 70 max discipline as it just simply doesn't regen fast enough unless you farm slow.

My current build would be completely impossible without legacy, and I really like it.


Ok thanks allot, i will replace my current Nat pieces with Legacy pieces.

I prefer to survive and kill a bit slower then to die sometimes against elites because i cant keep gloom up.
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Nov 5 2012 05:36am
Quote (V4mP @ Nov 5 2012 12:36am)
Ok thanks allot, i will replace my current Nat pieces with Legacy pieces.

I prefer to survive and kill a bit slower then to die sometimes  against elites because i cant keep gloom up.


Well with legacy you regent 15 disc in 5 second and gloom costs 14 so that won't be an issue anymore.
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Nov 5 2012 12:46pm
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/lucky-2938/Rukia/364139

I want to power leveling by this method Alkaizer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SfoBJBFHYmM&noredirect=1

1.Can u check my build?


I look something strange. I have 386% with archery and 70k normal dmg, so i should damage about 200-240kdmg from crits. I never saw dmg above 140k. How is it? I have 43% CC.

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Nov 5 2012 03:19pm
Howdy,

I got bored of my old build, and decided to play around with a tank build that's been working pretty well for me in MP6-7. I am decently geared: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kingzblend-1326/Yum/5040645

Sitting at:
- 85k unbuffed DPS
- 42k HP
- 51% CC unbuffed
- +344% CD
- ~400 All Res.
- ~750 Life Regen

Active Skills:
Hungering Arrow - Spray of Teeth
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Companion - Bat Companion
Sentry - Guardian Turret

Passive Skills:
Night Stalker
Numbing Traps
Cull the Weak

Any recommendations?
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Nov 5 2012 05:55pm
Quote (fearexuberance1 @ Nov 5 2012 11:19am)
Howdy,

I got bored of my old build, and decided to play around with a tank build that's been working pretty well for me in MP6-7. I am decently geared: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kingzblend-1326/Yum/5040645

Sitting at:
- 85k unbuffed DPS
- 42k HP
- 51% CC unbuffed
- +344% CD
- ~400 All Res.
- ~750 Life Regen

Active Skills:
Hungering Arrow - Spray of Teeth
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Companion - Bat Companion
Sentry - Guardian Turret

Passive Skills:
Night Stalker
Numbing Traps
Cull the Weak

Any recommendations?


So I have been playing with a build that I believe simply cannot be beat for getting the most possible DPS/Survivability out of a DH.

Bola Shot - Acid Strike
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Sentry - Guardian Turret
Vault - Tumble

Perfectionist
Numbing Traps
Archery

This build gives such huge DPS and damage reduction I can literally sit and face tank any mob in mp 10, only about 10 arcane sentries can overpower the 70% damage reduction I get when gloomed. Now you may need Prep running non legacy builds but it should still work if you can live without vault. Basically Caltrops is your instant 20% DR button if mobs get close while also giving you a huge DPS boost. Bola wrecks everything and pierces which isn't the greatest for huge packs of mobs but it works perfectly in conjunction with spike traps. The turrets offer more damage reduction and a great amount of free DPS. You could switch Perfectionist out for Nightstalker to get Disc faster, I really like the +10% to all survivability stats though. Give it a shot you might be shocked how much this build can make even an under geared DH do. Keep in mind I have a very high rate of fire which helps with the spam and damage.

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Nov 5 2012 10:00pm
Quote (D4rk50ul @ Nov 5 2012 06:55pm)
So I have been playing with a build that I believe simply cannot be beat for getting the most possible DPS/Survivability out of a DH.

Bola Shot - Acid Strike
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Sentry - Guardian Turret
Vault - Tumble

Perfectionist
Numbing Traps
Archery

This build gives such huge DPS and damage reduction I can literally sit and face tank any mob in mp 10, only about 10 arcane sentries can overpower the 70% damage reduction I get when gloomed.  Now you may need Prep running non legacy builds but it should still work if you can live without vault.  Basically Caltrops is your instant 20% DR button if mobs get close while also giving you a huge DPS boost.  Bola wrecks everything and pierces which isn't the greatest for huge packs of mobs but it works perfectly in conjunction with spike traps.  The turrets offer more damage reduction and a great amount of free DPS.  You could switch Perfectionist out for Nightstalker to get Disc faster, I really like the +10% to all survivability stats though.  Give it a shot you might be shocked how much this build can make even an under geared DH do.  Keep in mind I have a very high rate of fire which helps with the spam and damage.


Tried this build out. It's takes some getting used too, but is absolutely ridiculous if done right.
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Nov 5 2012 10:14pm
hey bro,

am looking to upgrade parts of my DH gears.

would appreciate if you could LMK which are the items i should upgrade first.

am a legacy nat DH. :)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/llllllllllll-1316/hero/12882989
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Nov 6 2012 12:36am
iam trying to build me now a Demon hunter, and iam not sure about few things what to pick:

the build i have currently in my mind
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aiXdgV!efY!caZbYb

i like sentry also, but iam not sure what to remove for it. also i read that alot of ppl have problems with the hatred, so 1 more skill which needs hatred is maybe not that effective when i always have to low hatred.. also iam interested to use the raven with life/resi boost (i think its a pig..^^) same problem here: which skill shell i maybe remove for it, or lets say, does it worth it ? which rune to use on Hungering arrow is also a big question. i saw around 3 or 4 posibilities... what are you guys using and why ?

for my passive skills, there is a huge bunch of possibilities, and iam really not sure what to use^^ since i want to have a good survivability, i think perfection is a must. archery is a must have too, so there is just 1 slot to switch, but thats my problem.
there are so many options, that iam not sure what to use. steady aim sounds pretty nice. also iam wondering why i should not use sharpshooter. got it nerved or why does so less DHs use it at the moment ?
do you guys have other ideas for builds ? iam free for everything :)


the next couple of questions are about the items i should use. first of all, i will have a budge of around 200mio igg, maybe a bit more or less..

as weapon i think i will use windforce. it seems really to be a cool bow. also i like kitting so i prefer high attack speed. but everything i read is "take a manticore noob". i hate the style also, so it is a hard decision..^^
als i think iam gonna use natalya set. this is a clear decision without other compareable options. for belt, iam thinking about a dex witching our but iam not sure if a innas belt+pants would make a better job... anyone got some experience with that ?
vile wards with dex/vita, and a dead mans for sure.. strong arm bracers, and a nice rare amu/gloves


thats it for the moment, would be nice if anyone could help me with those hard decisions^^

P.S.: since i have no clue, iam wondering what i use on singletargets: Hungering Arrow or Elemtary Arrow ?




btw, i found some DHs which are using the old Natalya set which regenerates Discipline. Which set is better, and how much is the price for a good one ?

This post was edited by Goldii on Nov 6 2012 01:02am
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Nov 6 2012 12:42am
Quote (D4rk50ul @ Nov 5 2012 04:55pm)
So I have been playing with a build that I believe simply cannot be beat for getting the most possible DPS/Survivability out of a DH.

Bola Shot - Acid Strike
Spike Trap - Echoing Blast
Caltrops - Bait the Trap
Shadow Power - Gloom
Sentry - Guardian Turret
Vault - Tumble

Perfectionist
Numbing Traps
Archery

This build gives such huge DPS and damage reduction I can literally sit and face tank any mob in mp 10, only about 10 arcane sentries can overpower the 70% damage reduction I get when gloomed.  Now you may need Prep running non legacy builds but it should still work if you can live without vault.  Basically Caltrops is your instant 20% DR button if mobs get close while also giving you a huge DPS boost.  Bola wrecks everything and pierces which isn't the greatest for huge packs of mobs but it works perfectly in conjunction with spike traps.  The turrets offer more damage reduction and a great amount of free DPS.  You could switch Perfectionist out for Nightstalker to get Disc faster, I really like the +10% to all survivability stats though.  Give it a shot you might be shocked how much this build can make even an under geared DH do.  Keep in mind I have a very high rate of fire which helps with the spam and damage.


Can you link your profile please?
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Nov 6 2012 12:53am
Quote (Duir @ Nov 5 2012 08:42pm)
Can you link your profile please?


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D4rk50ul-1947/hero/20721965

There you go, if it shows hellfire ring I use a dex trifecta thats about 30kish dps increase when doing mp6 or above.
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