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Oct 10 2010 09:03am
Quote (josh2234 @ 9 Sep 2010 23:01)
Ok guys let get this straight.

If you QQ about paying 10$-15$ a month to pay to play for a game, I think your living in like 1995 first of all.

The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2.  I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people who are geting paid 1$ a week in a sweatshop because we want that bad ass item.

Ill go into detail.  When a company stops selling there game in mass amounts, they no longer are making decent $$ to support that game, whatever it may be. So charging a small amount every month gives them ability to support it, and solve the problems such as cheaters, viruses, hacks, gold farmers wtf ever...... AND ADD NEW CONTENT, AND FIX THE OLD OFC :)

I personally also wouldnt want the guild wars approach either,...... coming out with an expansion every time someone cries so they can support there non paying game.

If Diablo 3 is not pay to play, I give it a few months before it turns into the shit hole that d2 did.

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I seriously think you never ever played WoW then.
The game is overgrown with bots, spammers, hackers and third world players.
If you log into wow 8am you can be certain that for the next hour, any good deal you make is an account hacker. Thats because blizz doesnt open support untill 9am.. so they have 1hour free time to do what ever they want.
There are BIG hacking going on in every city. 10-15 chars flying around in the air spelling fucking goldwebsites names.
You cannot enter a city, without getting spammed by gold spammers, and you continuosly get whispered with spam.....

Seriously.. paying doesnt give you any better support AT ALL, not from blizz.
And if you do... it lasts a year max... just like in wow.
U used to be able to get a GM within minutes, now its... hey maybe in 6hours or tomorrow at best... but live support is gone, even though we pay millions to blizz every single month.

Screw those that think you get anything better by paying for it.. You dont. You get excactly the same, it just costs more.
Monthly payments is a scam in todays business.
Every single pay per month game is evidence of that. you dont get anything you didnt get in old games that were free per month.

Anyone thinking so, havent played the old games when they were new, or currently playing anything today that is pay per month.

The only thing thats needed to get rid of spam, is open up for ppl to make addons like in WoW. That way we can set parameters to get rid of spam. But hacking? Forget it, it will never ever die. And neither will goldsellers/itemsellers as long as you want an ingame economy.
Thinking paying monthly will help deter either of these things, really shows how little you thought about it. You just hope that by paying you get what you want. Reality just doesnt work that way Im sad to tell ya.

Oh and added content? Gsus fucking hell, you already pay for those ON TOP OF monthly payments. Just like before. Any extra content costs another fee. You have to go back MANY years to see free game updates that actually was free AND added something significant to the game.

This post was edited by Guunba on Oct 10 2010 09:05am
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Oct 10 2010 10:47am
Just want to point out that P2P games usually include cashshops. The quality of gameplay and your character become based on how much money mommy and daddy are willingly to throw away on their 12 year old kid rather than people actually playing the game.
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Oct 10 2010 11:02am
I don't agree.
It should be better moderated, and lots of "civilian" moderators.
And there should be some sort of "Scammer Accusations" forum at the Blizzard Forums.
But that's only my opinion ;)
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Oct 10 2010 12:51pm
Quote (Xaysia @ 10 Oct 2010 20:02)
I don't agree.
It should be better moderated, and lots of "civilian" moderators.
And there should be some sort of "Scammer Accusations" forum at the Blizzard Forums.
But that's only my opinion ;)


what is the sense with scamers accusations with ah like system ? ;) and with ingame gold being currency?

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Oct 10 2010 06:17pm
60 $ for the game, and 15$ a month wont break me sorry.... and continuing to pay for the game each month doesnt bother me either...

I never said the game would be perfect if it was P2P. It will be ALOT better if it is though...

You think there will be CSR'S, GM'S in Diablo 3 if its not P2P ? lol

Id like to have some type of support......
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Oct 10 2010 06:27pm
Quote (RawRaGatoR @ Oct 10 2010 10:47am)
Just want to point out that P2P games usually include cashshops. The quality of gameplay and your character become based on how much money mommy and daddy are willingly to throw away on their 12 year old kid rather than people actually playing the game.


Sorry all I heard was waaaaaahhhhh! Mom, Dad, Jimmy and Sara have more toys then me, punish them somehow! Commit suicide communist.
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Oct 10 2010 06:43pm
Blizzard doesn't even know wtf to do with wow. It went from hard, to different, to easy and now its going back to hard. And eventually it is going to be f2p, along with the starcraft MMO that is in the processing stage of development.

D3 will not be p2p... think about it. 12 million subscribers to WoW atm, I'll bet half of those people have played d2 and I'm also willing to be 8+ million people will buy d3. With that being said, thats $512,000,000 for their product... That will take care of anything they need to do with their game, and it would cover development for expansions as well.
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Oct 10 2010 06:49pm
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Blizzard doesn't even know wtf to do with wow. It went from hard, to different, to easy and now its going back to hard. And eventually it is going to be f2p, along with the starcraft MMO that is in the processing stage of development.

D3 will not be p2p... think about it. 12 million subscribers to WoW atm, I'll bet half of those people have played d2 and I'm also willing to be 8+ million people will buy d3. With that being said, thats $512,000,000 for their product... That will take care of anything they need to do with their game, and it would cover development for expansions as well.


Cool incredibly skewed and downright hysterical facts bro.

this is why children aren't allowed in finance.
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Oct 10 2010 06:54pm
Quote (teltic @ 10 Oct 2010 19:49)
Cool incredibly skewed and downright hysterical facts bro.

this is why children aren't allowed in finance.


Its basic number crunching that just shows that you don't need monthly subscribers to power a game. d1/d2 didn't have p2p and to bring back old fashion players d3 shouldn't for that reason alone. But also, some people don't buy games because they don't wanna dump 180 bucks into a game a year in addition to (what is my guess a) 60 dollar initial investment.
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Oct 10 2010 06:55pm
Quote (Amnesiac @ Oct 10 2010 05:54pm)
Its basic number crunching that just shows that you don't need monthly subscribers to power a game. d1/d2 didn't have p2p and to bring back old fashion players d3 shouldn't for that reason alone. But also, some people don't buy games because they don't wanna dump 180 bucks into a game a year in addition to (what is my guess a) 60 dollar initial investment.


You crunched numbers that you made up with no basis, that means you are wrong lol.

Although I agree you don't need monthly subscribers to power a game(if you have a large enough player base)
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