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Jan 1 2013 12:45pm
Quote (xu-godx @ Jan 1 2013 11:41am)
You guys are all crazy not to be using Cyclone with your sweeping wind.  It's pretty much the best skill a monk has...


Its a totally different build.
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Jan 1 2013 01:14pm
Hmmm it seems my 7% run speed ring didnt do much - I guess it caps at 25% but I didnt know that. Guess I'll go with Mara's Amulet that I got and find some other ring with dps and resist stats.
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Jan 1 2013 01:43pm
Thanks for sharing your build power, its nice to see a possible tempest rush below 20M budget. That doesnt mean however its the easiest thing to play (as you mentioned it can get dicey sometimes!)

-xu-godx You cant run cyclone with this build. If you can get high end tempest rush gear where you can afford to lose 3 spirit/s then by all rights you should be using cyclone. Most people will only ever do up to a medium grade build and it does not work with cyclone. When you play a tempest rush build its meant to have a few things. 1. Unlimited rushing no exceptions, ability to kill quick, ability to survive. When your unable to constantly rush because your spirit is not high enough then its not really the intended build. But ill say it again, top tier gear will achieve what you said yes, however this guide is more for a starters/medium grade tempest rush build so people know whats required and where to get certain stats so they can do this. Once they make there millions by all right they should upgrade and get a really good geared build and thats where cyclone would start to work and really down the killing time.

The build is meant for max exp (hellfire/exp gem in helm) and running mp0 with a budget so people can start tempest rushing and enjoy it. After that this guide will only serve as a backing because there templates and gear will be much much different.
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Jan 1 2013 01:49pm
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Thanks for sharing your build power, its nice to see a possible tempest rush below 20M budget. That doesnt mean however its the easiest thing to play (as you mentioned it can get dicey sometimes!)

-xu-godx You cant run cyclone with this build. If you can get high end tempest rush gear where you can afford to lose 3 spirit/s then by all rights you should be using cyclone. Most people will only ever do up to a medium grade build and it does not work with cyclone. When you play a tempest rush build its meant to have a few things. 1. Unlimited rushing no exceptions, ability to kill quick, ability to survive.  When your unable to constantly rush because your spirit is not high enough then its not really the intended build. But ill say it again, top tier gear will achieve what you said yes, however this guide is more for a starters/medium grade tempest rush build so people know whats required and where to get certain stats so they can do this. Once they make there millions by all right they should upgrade and get a really good geared build and thats where cyclone would start to work and really down the killing time.

The build is meant for max exp (hellfire/exp gem in helm) and running mp0 with a budget so people can start tempest rushing and enjoy it. After that this guide will only serve as a backing because there templates and gear will be much much different.


This. 100%.
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Jan 1 2013 02:19pm
i don't understand how you can get 12+ spirit regen, when the only place you mention to get spirit regen on gear is on helmet. and i use SoJ to get 12.55 spirit regen.

Nvm this, i found out that i didn't use guardians path but exalted soul

This post was edited by rickitheman on Jan 1 2013 02:21pm
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Jan 1 2013 09:38pm
It works WAY better with cyclone, and you're gearing wrong if you can't use cyclone and keep tempest rush up all the time...

Having unlimited Tempest Rush has NOTHING to do with how much you spend on your gear. You can easily achieve 12-13 / second, BEFORE you even cast sweeping wind.

Spirit comes from 2 items. Inna's Radiance, and Stone of Jordan. Buy them with more then 1.5 / second and it's plenty. That costs what? 2 million, max. The rest of your spirit comes from skills and passives.

Why are people who write the guides often times the ones that don't seem to have played the character before?

This post was edited by xu-godx on Jan 1 2013 09:53pm
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Jan 1 2013 11:11pm
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It works WAY better with cyclone, and you're gearing wrong if you can't use cyclone and keep tempest rush up all the time...

Having unlimited Tempest Rush has NOTHING to do with how much you spend on your gear. You can easily achieve 12-13 / second, BEFORE you even cast sweeping wind.

Spirit comes from 2 items. Inna's Radiance, and Stone of Jordan. Buy them with more then 1.5 / second and it's plenty. That costs what? 2 million, max. The rest of your spirit comes from skills and passives.

Why are people who write the guides often times the ones that don't seem to have played the character before?


you get 1 from exalted and you get 2 from chant thats 3. then you have 2.3 from innas helm, 2.3 from soj, and .3 from innas set well round that up to 5+3 = 8

8*1.47(guardians path + templar) = 11.76

thats with max spirit regen on everything and no One with everything or fleet footed.

are you using circular breathing? because MOC/submission is infinately better then sw/cyclone + moh/circular breathing unless your multiboxing and dont feel like keeping sweeping wind up.

another option would be a 1.5+ xeperian ammy, but your loosing out on a possible 30k dps by not using a dex/crit dmg/crit ch ammy

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jan 1 2013 11:13pm
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Jan 1 2013 11:13pm
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It works WAY better with cyclone, and you're gearing wrong if you can't use cyclone and keep tempest rush up all the time...

Having unlimited Tempest Rush has NOTHING to do with how much you spend on your gear.  You can easily achieve 12-13 / second, BEFORE you even cast sweeping wind. 

Spirit comes from 2 items.  Inna's Radiance, and Stone of Jordan.  Buy them with more then 1.5 / second and it's plenty.  That costs what?  2 million, max.  The rest of your spirit comes from skills and passives.

Why are people who write the guides often times the ones that don't seem to have played the character before?


why the fuck do you always try to be im right you are wrong type of person in every thread?

there are multiple ways to achieve the same result for TR build. this one sounds good for the budget TR monk.
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Jan 1 2013 11:41pm
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why the fuck do you always try to be im right you are wrong type of person in every thread?


Jinshin, if you spoke better English maybe we could have an argument. As is, it would be like beating up a child...


A monk without cyclone is just giving up one of the best skills they have, period. Obviously killing trash mobs takes less than a second, even on a budget. The only thing that slows a tempest rush monk down is elite packs. If you use Cyclone with Thunderclap, they melt in about 2 seconds.

This character is all about speed. So why would you choose not to use the skill that allows you to kill the fastest? It makes no sense. Spirit / second is not a problem at all. As I said, 2 items, and 3 skills, and you have all the spirit you need. I made my tempest rush monk with less than 15 million, with a shitty 1 million SOJ, and I still have 12.7 spirit / second while using cyclone.


There are 2 choices with Tempest Rush monks. Sweeping wind + Cyclone builds that use mantra of healing for their spirit, or switching out Mantra of Healing altogether as Ylem mentioned and getting extra spirit from sweeping wind. Both are probably just as good in the end.

But to use Sweeping Wind and Mantra of Healing together, and NOT use cyclone in that set up is just wrong. You're giving up way to much killing power by not using a better mantra, and not using cyclone. Mantra + Cyclone is the only reason monks do high damage in the first place. Without both of those, damage is pathetic...
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Jan 1 2013 11:59pm
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Jinshin, if you spoke better English maybe we could have an argument.  As is, it would be like beating up a child...


A monk without cyclone is just giving up one of the best skills they have, period.  Obviously killing trash mobs takes less than a second, even on a budget.  The only thing that slows a tempest rush monk down is elite packs. If you use Cyclone with Thunderclap, they melt in about 2 seconds.

This character is all about speed.  So why would you choose not to use the skill that allows you to kill the fastest?  It makes no sense.  Spirit / second is not a problem at all.  As I said, 2 items, and 3 skills, and you have all the spirit you need.  I made my tempest rush monk with less than 15 million, with a shitty 1 million SOJ, and I still have 12.7 spirit / second while using cyclone.


There are 2 choices with Tempest Rush monks.  Sweeping wind + Cyclone builds that use mantra of healing for their spirit, or switching out Mantra of Healing altogether as Ylem mentioned and getting extra spirit from sweeping wind.  Both are probably just as good in the end.

But to use Sweeping Wind and Mantra of Healing together, and NOT use cyclone in that set up is just wrong.  You're giving up way to much killing power by not using a better mantra, and not using cyclone.  Mantra + Cyclone is the only reason monks do high damage in the first place.  Without both of those, damage is pathetic...


also Seven sided strike-fulminating onslaught do it in 1 sec. Bad thing is that it have cooldown.
I have 12 spirit reg/sec and I can't hold infinite spirit by using cyclone. Yes i'm using soj + full inna with spirit reg in helm. I think that the problem is APS. More aps = more Spirit spending.
Im interested about how ppl can get +12 spirit reg / sec without Mantra of Healing?

nvm.. templar adding +12 %/sec? Damn never used templar as merc. What items should i wear on him?

This post was edited by LolBastard on Jan 2 2013 12:01am
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