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Dec 30 2012 03:52am
Quote (blinkyvx1 @ Dec 30 2012 12:10am)
why mace over axe for MH if using EF Off hand,  axe is faster


1.5x vs 1.4x isnt much of a difference.. and wont allow you to shoot for a higher IAS bp and you will lose out on raw damage

if mace with echoing.. they both have the same base speed

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Dec 30 2012 06:51am
this is nice, and should be very useful to alot of ppl.. nice to know players can easy gear up in diablo 3
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Dec 30 2012 12:31pm
due to massive bans on 18th dec all prices went up.
got the same setup as described here, though i payed 30m (have to admit i bought a nice fury, mempo and tyrael's which where 15m)

i think minimum is about 15m to pay.... no?
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Dec 30 2012 12:47pm
Anyone got gear like this they want to sell? Looking to change the gear on my barb so I can farm like in the vid
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Dec 30 2012 01:13pm
Also what skills are used for this type of build?
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Quote (joolz @ Dec 30 2012 11:31am)
due to massive bans on 18th dec all prices went up.
got the same setup as described here, though i payed 30m (have to admit i bought a nice fury, mempo and tyrael's which where 15m)

i think minimum is about 15m to pay.... no?


dunno dont look at cheap versions of those items

Quote (PSDCC @ Dec 30 2012 12:13pm)
Also what skills are used for this type of build?


if you watched vid you could see! :P

regular WW build with frenzy - maniac, war cry - impunity, rest are common knowledge I think

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Quote (moogleslam @ Jan 1 2013 06:44am)
What's your life?


it was like 36k
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Quote (Tboner @ 29 Dec 2012 22:30)
huh what?

I was aiming for 2.2/2.5 bps but couldnt quite get there.. with a dagger I would have hit 2.0/2.5 I think..


you have 32% ias from gear, next breakpoint is at 39%, the previous is at 20%
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Quote (Cyberbeni @ Jan 1 2013 08:42pm)
you have 32% ias from gear, next breakpoint is at 39%, the previous is at 20%


yeh alrdy knew that :P i was one if not the first to start spreading around the ias breakpoints on jsp once I found out what they were

i should have gotten a dagger for 2.5 aps but couldnt find a good cheap one so kinda defeats the budget.. had i spent like 6mil more on the barb I could have made him much much better but I wanted to keep each piece cheap as I could

and getting another IAS item would have been too expensive.. i would have had to use ik boots + belt then used an andies helm.. and cheapest IK boots i could find at the time were like 2.3 mil

Quote (Tboner @ Dec 29 2012 08:18pm)
Cant edit in now but ill add this in

common breakpoints and IAS needed to hit the breakpoints (in WOTB, dual wielding, add 25ias for not in wotb)

Using formula breakpoint you want to hit divided by base weapon speed minus 1.4

eg for myself, 2.5/1.45 - 1.4 = .324 (33 ias needed)







BASE weapon speed = 1.2 (Mace) = 27 ias needed for 2.0 APS, 44ias needed for 2.2 APS, 69ias needed for 2.5 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.3 (Axe) = 14 ias needed for 2.0 APS, 30ias needed for 2.2 APS, 53 ias needed for 2.5 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.4 (Sword) = 3 ias needed for 2.0 APS, 18ias needed for 2.2 APS, 39ias needed for 2.5 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.45 (Mace with +.25 Echo, or echo itself) = 12ias needed for 2.2 APS, 33 ias needed for 2.5 APS, 58ias needed for 2.86 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.5 (Dagger) = 7ias needed for 2.2 APS, 27ias needed for 2.5 APS, 51ias needed for 2.86 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.65 (Sword with .25 Echo) = 12ias needed for 2.5 APS, 34ias needed for 2.86 APS, 63ias needed for 3.34 APS

BASE weapon speed = 1.75 (Dagger with .25 Echo) = 3 ias needed for 2.5 APS, 24ias needed for 2.86 APS, 51ias needed for 3.34 APS






This shows why if using Echoing fury as a mainhand using a sword as your OH is ideal (Since ias needed is 33/34 for 2.5APS breakpoint, very close)

or for some HOTA build that uses sword as mainhand for the 15% dmg increase if you dont need the crit chance, with echo OH


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