about to try this build out now, will post my thoughts/results after playing for a bit

the number one problem bar none is the reflect pack , for wd's , if its not a problem for you your stuck on speed runs , and forget that 200-500 crits off bear your done in 3 cycles of bears, not even 5 ll i tested with skorn , will help you , might be a little slower vs reflect only , but thats the price you pay for a chance to survive

It's like you're oblivious to the fact that SW absorbs damage. Is it that you can't comprehend English?

and i think you're oblivious to the fact it has a cooldown lmao, learn basics

@OP: I would have asked you to try out frightening aspect, 100% additional armor will give you an effective 30-40% less reflected dmg, but since it makes them run away in fear it kinda sucks.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 19 2012 08:18pm

o know , last time i talked to you , we talked you outa firebats , then from 1hand/mojo to a 2 hander , ok SW you do take dmg , and can finish your spirit walk if you take enough , its your movement that is unhindered ,i think you need to pm me your thoughts , before this gets ugly

1. I havn't played Dire Bats since before the initial VQ change, when it was very viable. (The top WD in the world was playing Dire Bats)
2. SW will negate 50% of your health pool or 3 seconds (with Jaunt) of damage, which ever comes first. This damage received is affected by DR (a fully buffed WD with decent gear will have ~700 AR, and 25% DR through Life Link/Jungle Fortitude). With SV, this leaves you with at most a 9 second window where you don't have SW available (even less if you're using Grave Injustice). This time should be allocated towards refreshing SH, resummoning dogs, and establishing position/setting up for your next SW. There is literally NO reason for you to die with 25% of every second of combat of SW uptime, SV, health globe pickups, potions, and massive skill DR. Increasing your health pool with increase the effectiveness of SW's damage absorb.

after playing for a bit in act 2 mp 5, it's a pretty solid build, not the fastest by any means, but it does work, ended up with a couple reflect mobs, first one I didn't fair so well, as they had mortar, and another elite group came in as well, but I got through it with 2 deaths, after that I came across a unique, with reflect, that one was pretty easy, almost died when I cast bears on his little reflect friends though. It takes a little bit longer to kill since you're mostly using the rain of toads, but I didn't die on that reflect, and also didn't die on the next reflect group I hit as well

To sum it up, SW has 25% (at least) combat uptime, worth 50% of your health pool of effective damage invulnerability.
ZB will always be a more effective and hasty kill method than RoT in the current state of the game. Sitting there spamming RoT for the majority of your damage output just isn't very effective. Will you die if you're geared with a decent amount of LoH? Probably not. But it is extremely slow, and if you use SW and a handful of other abilities and equipment correctly, you won't die anyway.

Well i hope this helps some one out , and for those that have np with reflect, stay in mp 1

This post was edited by jaydo111 on Nov 19 2012 09:12pm

i dont like using rain of toads, couse thats a real slow way to kill , as seens on video:S
just switch my mojo to shield, and with life leech i dont loose hp (i have ~1.4 mil ehp with shield ~ with 1k unbuffed allres, and unbuffed dps is still over 100k with shield)
Dunno how it works with lower ehp, must test it, but a good shield with block, and crit/int can be better i think, and nn to use rain of toads. ----> u have 1 free slot, if dont use BBV ----> have 2 free slot!!
and here u can take: summon zombie dogs, and Sacrifice with demage rune, wich will give u almost all time +15% demage, and not just in every 1-2 min, like BBV...
It work fine for me, i can farm effective mp7, mp8 is still faster than that wid ... ( but i must tell this is not low budget wd... )