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Aug 27 2012 03:40am
@Althares: I've considered that actually but the new Zuni rings I've seen on AH don't seem to have IAS rolled into them. Or rather, I havent seen the new Zuni pox rolling quadfecta stats: int, cc, cd, IAS all into one ring.

If they did, I probably wouldn't hesitate to get one immediately and switch over to the old Zuni boots. In fact, that would be the ideal scenario. Then again, a full 3 piece Zuni set with quadfecta Zuni pox would add quite a fair bit of eHP to my toon which is another tempting alternative as well.

Another thing to note is that the all out paper DPS only build sounds pretty interesting if all it matters is DPS on paper: e.g. ANDARIEL's VISAGE/MEMPO TWILIGHT, LACUNI prowlers, TAL rasha's chest, old Zuni boots, witching hour, vile ward. These items will probably allow me to reach 300k unbuffed DPS with ease but that also means that I'll be dying to stray shots from trash mobs.

Below are just a few Chest and Boots combination that I've thought through extensively when I was upgrading my wizzy.

TAL RASHA + ICE PICKER = avg 600 int, 9% IAS, lower VIT, lower AR, no MS
TAL RASHA + FIREWALKERS = avg 550 int, 9% IAS, Lower VIT, lower AR, + MS
TAL RASHA + OLD ZUNI= avg 500 int, 15% IAS, +6% poison DMG, Trash VIT, Non existent AR, + ms
OLD ZUNI VS + OLD ZUNI= avg 580 int, 6% IAS, +6% poison DMG, lower VIT, low AR, +ms
NEW ZUNI MW+ NEW ZUNI= avg 690 int, +7% poison DMG, highest VIT, HIGH AR, + ms and possibility to stack even more VIT and AR + Set AR with a quadfecta ZUNI POX.

The higher int also marginally adds more base AR and raises my overall base DMG and that allows me to lose some defensive stats on my belt for a witching hour that rolls high int and max IAS + CD.

As you can see, every combo has their pros and cons and I think TAL rasha's with ice pickers would be a pretty decent combo. The TAL rasha's + old zuni's would give probably the most On sheet DPS but the lack of VIT, AR and lowest int means that you probably got to find VIT + AR elsewhere in other armor pieces and makes it hard to balance out your character since the addition of a vile ward and witching hour belt would see you plummet from glass cannon to paper cannon. :)

In short, we can't simply look at single armor pieces but rather the overall big picture isn't one to be missed so as to make future upgrades possible as well as balanced. IMO, synergy is a key factor to every solid build and I find that the hardest to achieve when you start hitting higher DPS levels.

This post was edited by leej88 on Aug 27 2012 03:50am
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Aug 27 2012 03:42am
Sick wiz, 10/10.

But how much $ have u spent on this one in total?
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Aug 27 2012 07:38am
Dude, Ice pickers can roll ms. I saw a pair with 210 int, 70 vita, 70@, 12ms and a socket.

Also, I heard if your weapon got phys damage - triumverate source is the best damage source.
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Aug 27 2012 07:56am
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Aug 27 2012 09:38pm)
Dude, Ice pickers can roll ms. I saw a pair with 210 int, 70 vita, 70@, 12ms and a socket.

Also, I heard if your weapon got phys damage - triumverate source is the best damage source.


But if they have 210int, that would only be 22 int more and even with a socket and a radiant star gem, its not gonna beat the bonus u get from a zuni set.

Yeah, I heard about the triumvirate source. I had a chance to try one out ytd and on sheet, it showed slightly lower DPS but gave me higher base dmg.
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Aug 27 2012 08:04am
10/10. love your weapon, damn insane!! :D
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Aug 27 2012 11:17am
I really like the way my wizard is shaping up.

Then i see threads like this and get pissed off.

Mass jealousy/10
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Aug 27 2012 11:58am
as you mentioned missing LL on main weapon for archon verse reflect damage elites..seems annoying to have to swap weapons, but i guess it's simple enough. i would also be annoyed with that life..probably guarantees a death if you get frozen/jailed in molten/desc/arcane. i'm still searching for a good vit/LL/socket weapon, but so much garbage on the AH or slightly OP.

you could probably benefit from an item with pickup radius as well for health globes and the extra gold from gf on paragon lvls. btw you should put a ruby in that helm for leveling.. i wonder how low your life would be then..haha.

i haven't tried forked before for procing cm, so i can't say for sure, but you should tryout tornado with the chaser rune. procs even more than ww prepatch imo.



This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on Aug 27 2012 12:02pm
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Aug 27 2012 11:59am
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Aug 27 2012 02:37pm
Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Aug 28 2012 01:58am)
as you mentioned missing LL on main weapon for archon verse reflect damage elites..seems annoying to have to swap weapons, but i guess it's simple enough.  i would also be annoyed with that life..probably guarantees a death if you get frozen/jailed in molten/desc/arcane. i'm still searching for a good vit/LL/socket weapon, but so much garbage on the AH or slightly OP.

you could probably benefit from an item with pickup radius as well for health globes and the extra gold from gf on paragon lvls. btw you should put a ruby in that helm for leveling.. i wonder how low your life would be then..haha.

i haven't tried forked before for procing cm, so i can't say for sure, but you should tryout tornado with the chaser rune. procs even more than ww prepatch imo.


Farming inferno act 3 with a ruby on my helm and its do-able. Only hiccups are reflect dmg but they're fine after a simple swap. And for farming runs, I'll swap out pinpoint barrier for prismatic armor. That way, my resists go up quite a fair amount and things get a lot easier.

I can't really use Tornados coz i don't have APoC so forked lightning pretty much does it for me. Its a slower run but more relaxed. Elites can also be killed with forked lightning rather easily since they crit a lot.
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Aug 27 2012 02:43pm
Anyway, I'm looking to sell my AMMY that you guys see over there. S/B 450m B/0 750m. :D



PM me if you want to trade! :D

Sales thread here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64394284&f=153

This post was edited by leej88 on Aug 27 2012 02:53pm
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