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Jul 8 2012 10:14am
Quote (dajusta @ Jul 5 2012 03:46pm)


If you can find a good rolled HS with crit or resistance, then snipe it off AH immediately. It's a ring that could look like this:

+30 All Resist
+6% Attack Speed Increase
+6% Life
+10% Damage to Demons (or like +200 Primary Stat)
+150 life per second
+200 Armor

Last thing to consider, how many demons are there in the game? Answer - Act 1+2 not very many.. Act 3+4.. pretty much all of them :)


got me thinking, ya right, that will be impossible

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Jul 12 2012 11:55pm
Quote (dajusta @ Jul 8 2012 12:01pm)
Testing for concrete evidence is very difficult due to the fact that none of the attribute bonuses of Hierophant's Seal shows up in details or character stats.  It's all to do with feel when comparing killing demons and non demons.  As well as going into act4 and finding all demon types.


Or you can just tick the box in options to display damage numbers and compare.
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Jul 13 2012 12:07am
How about a ring with aome main stat, a bit of ias, a bit of crit?
I dont see this ring being good for dps with only 2 offense mods.. ;/
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Jul 13 2012 01:31am
Got one in my stash with 20-40 weapon damage, 6ias,10% demon damage =)
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Jul 19 2012 02:16am
Quote (3hitk0 @ Jul 12 2012 10:55pm)
Or you can just tick the box in options to display damage numbers and compare.


It doesn't say damage numbers against demons specifically.
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Jul 19 2012 03:51am
Quote (dajusta @ 5 Jul 2012 20:46)

Where do you slide in the % damage to demons? You don't slide it after attacks per second.. that would be silly. You don't slide it in with primary stat bonus.. that would be silly too (or else 1% of damage dealt to demon is exactly equal to 1 primary stat).. You slide it in after weapon damage x primary stat bonus.


You realize since all is multiplicative the effect would be the same as what you explained, right?

weapon damage * primary stat * demon damage * aps = weapon damage * primary stat * aps * demon damage

The way I would view this is that it increases one of these parts of the calculation. You could view it as a 10% increase of primary stat or 10% increase of weapon damage.. Which doesn't matter since all is multiplied together...

This post was edited by BloomTwig on Jul 19 2012 03:52am
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Jul 19 2012 04:02am
Quote (BloomTwig @ 19 Jul 2012 10:51)
You realize since all is multiplicative the effect would be the same as what you explained, right?

weapon damage * primary stat * demon damage * aps = weapon damage * primary stat * aps * demon damage

The way I would view this is that it increases one of these parts of the calculation. You could view it as a 10% increase of primary stat or 10% increase of weapon damage.. Which doesn't matter since all is multiplied together...


BTW you dont need to take any thoughts where or when you aply the 10% bonus in your math
the current math of DPS is only in faktors

so use your DPS you got currently on your char if you dequip one of the rings

lets say 30k

then the ring increases your dmg by 3k

if oyu wane compare that to your main stat

DPS * Main Stat * [(1- Kritt) + (Kritt * Kritt DMg)] = Real DPS
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Jul 19 2012 04:12am
Quote (WhiteCrow @ 19 Jul 2012 11:02)
BTW you dont need to take any thoughts where or when you aply the 10% bonus in your math
the current math of DPS is only in faktors

so use your DPS you got currently on your char if you dequip one of the rings

lets say 30k

then the ring increases your dmg by 3k

if oyu wane compare that to your main stat

DPS * Main Stat * [(1- Kritt) + (Kritt * Kritt DMg)] = Real DPS


kinda what I was saying... Though thanks to the OP for this info!
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Jul 19 2012 04:29am
Quote (BloomTwig @ 19 Jul 2012 11:12)
kinda what I was saying... Though thanks to the OP for this info!


ofc didnt read all :)
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Jul 19 2012 07:32am
Quote (WhiteCrow @ 19 Jul 2012 11:29)
ofc didnt read all :)


Lazy as fucker :p nah, just kidding =)
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