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Aug 26 2012 11:15pm
Since Tuesday, I have been doing some theorycrafting, and gathering mathmatical data, to try and find the most efficient way to gain Paragon Experience.
Countless time trials, notepad files with number scribbles, and browsing of the internet, has led me to believe I have the most efficient way to farm (as of now).


Throughout all of the trials, I have come to the decision that there are only 3 viable ways to farm Paragon Experience:
  • Act 1: Crypt of the Ancients Runs
  • Act 1: Warden/Butcher Runs
  • Act 3: Siegebreaker/Azmodan Runs

Comparing all of the statistics, I have come to the conclusion that (at level 14) doing Act 1: Crypt of the Ancients Runs will yield the fasted experience per hour.
I will show you the mathmatical data that I have compiled to back up this information.

Act 1: Crypt of the Ancients Runs
Time of completion: 30-40 seconds

These runs just consisted of me using the checkpoint in Crypt of the Ancients, clearing the entire dungeon, using the portal to town, and starting a new game.

20 Minute Trial:
- Starting Experience: 12,968,151
- Ending Experience: 21,253,717
Experience Gained: 8,285,556

8,285,556 x 3 = 24,856,968 experience

This means that, on average, these runs would yield you about 25 million experience an hour.

Act 1: Warden/Butcher Runs
Time of completion: 20 minutes

These runs just consisted of me gathering 5 stacks of Nephalem Valor then finishing the Warden and Butcher quests.

20 Minute Trial:
- Starting Experience: 433,789
- Ending Experience: 3,330,436
Experience Gained: 3,764,225

3,764,225 x 3 = 11,292,675

This means that, on average, these runs would yield you about 11 million experience an hour.

Act 3: Siegebreaker/Azmodan Runs
Time of completion: 120 minutes

These runs just consisted of gathering 5 stacks of Nephalem Valor, clearing the Keep Depths, and then finishing the Siegebreaker and Azmodan quests.

120 Minute Trial:
- Starting Experience: 3,330,436
- Ending Experience: 12,968,151
Experience Gained: 9,637,715

9,637,715 / 2 = 4,818,857.5

This means that, on average, these runs would yield you about 5 million experience an hour.

So, time to sum everything up. You need to decide on what you want to do, either farm Paragon experience quickly, or farm Paragon experience while simultaneously magic finding.

- Doing Act 1: Crypt of the Ancients Runs will give you the most experience per hour, but will not give you any good loot (you could equip gold find gear and get some nice stacks though)
- Doing Act 1: Warden/Butcher Runs will give you decent experience per hour, and will simultaneously give you a chance to get some good loot
- Doing Act 3: Siegebreaker/Azmodan Runs will give you a rather low experience per hour, but gives you the best chance at getting good loot

The next step you have to do, is hit the auction house and invest in a few items.

Helm: Cain's Laurel (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/cains-laurel) - Make sure you get one that has a socket in it
Gloves: Cain's Warmers (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/cains-warmers)
Boots: Cain's Slippers (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/cains-slippers)

The set bonus for using 3 of these pieces will give you an additional 30% Increased Bonus Experience.
If you make sure you get a socket in the helm, you can socket it with a ruby of some sort to increase that even more.

I do have to warn you, these runs get real repetitive. Baal runs in Diablo 2 were repetitive, and those were 2 minute runs.
These runs are very fast, and very short. However, they do yield the most experience per hour (mathmatically).

If you do not wish to hard farm Paragon experience, simply go do Warden/Butcher runs or Siegebreaker/Azmodan runs.
This information is only for those who are only concerned with farming Paragon experience the fastest.

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Aug 27 2012 12:36am
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Aug 27 2012 12:53am
i dont think rank 1 paragon guy is doing any of these 3 though.
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Aug 27 2012 01:59am
Quote (RedV @ 27 Aug 2012 08:53)
i dont think rank 1 paragon guy is doing any of these 3 though.


don't think it either! but especially the crypt method can give you up to 30M/hr if done manually and I bet at least 20M/hr if botted! even though I don't think #1 is botting I can imagine that this could be done this way.
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Aug 27 2012 04:44am
Quote (RyanTBS25 @ Aug 27 2012 09:15am)

Act 3: Siegebreaker/Azmodan Runs
Time of completion: 120 minutes
120 Minute Trial:
Experience Gained: 9,637,715

bad gear, man
thats all about your experience

from lvl 20 to 21 need 34.5m exp
i've got it with one full a3 run with 31% gem in helm
this run takes 90-110min

and obv. i'm playin ww barb
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Aug 27 2012 04:57am
Quote (ekunholy @ 27 Aug 2012 12:44)
bad gear, man
thats all about your experience

from lvl 20 to 21 need 34.5m exp
i've got it with one full a3 run with 31% gem in helm
this run takes 90-110min

and obv. i'm playin ww barb


yes I get 16M each 45min run with a wizard normal gear and only 29 ruby. 20M/hr is very realistic as wizard with normal gear.. so insane gear and/or barbs should be able to earn 25M exp/hr farming a3 maybe even more (leorics included?).

Quote (blackraven3000 @ 27 Aug 2012 13:01)
This is a concept that i have been trying to get people to understand from the release of Diablo 3.
The Faster You Move, The More You Get.
Faster Killing + Faster Moving = MORE
Slower Killing + Slower Moving = LESS
Enough said,, for the 50th time.


very smart observation!

This post was edited by EVAZ on Aug 27 2012 05:02am
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Aug 27 2012 05:01am
This is a concept that i have been trying to get people to understand from the release of Diablo 3.
The Faster You Move, The More You Get.
Faster Killing + Faster Moving = MORE
Slower Killing + Slower Moving = LESS
Enough said,, for the 50th time.

Edit: I understand that act 1 will not give you the same chance for quality rares that acts 2, 3 , and 4 drop.
I also understand that some people are already OP and can kill just as fast in any act,..
Kill The Fastest Where You Can.

This post was edited by blackraven3000 on Aug 27 2012 05:04am
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Aug 27 2012 05:39am
Act 1: Warden/Butcher Runs
Time of completion: 20 minutes

These runs just consisted of me gathering 5 stacks of Nephalem Valor then finishing the Warden and Butcher quests.

20 Minute Trial:
- Starting Experience: 433,789
- Ending Experience: 3,330,436
Experience Gained: 3,764,225

3,764,225 x 3 = 11,292,675



For me it's 3,330,436-433,789 = 2,896,647

so 2,896,647 x 3 = 8689941


This post was edited by Sorac on Aug 27 2012 05:39am
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Aug 27 2012 06:09am
just did a test run for crypt of the ancients with 3 cain's gears and star ruby (55% bonus exp)
I was gaining between 200,000 - 400,000 exp per run
each run takes ~ 1 minute (minus the logout time)
The only downside i found was it takes 10 seconds to log out between runs.
Time Lost: 6 minutes per hour

200,000 x 60 = 12,000,000 exp per hour
400,000x 60 = 24,000,000 exp per hour

I'm a witch doctor, so i was using acid rain, eals, and soul harvest vengful spirit.
If anyone calls serious bull i'll post a youtube video.

Edit: Brain Fart on the Math

This post was edited by blackraven3000 on Aug 27 2012 06:20am
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Aug 27 2012 06:12am
Quote (dos350 @ Aug 27 2012 01:36am)
bs~


I just decided to write down the data I've collected, take it or leave it.

Quote (RedV @ Aug 27 2012 01:53am)
i dont think rank 1 paragon guy is doing any of these 3 though.


He isn't. I don't have any possible idea what he is doing to be getting his experience.

Quote (EVAZ @ Aug 27 2012 02:59am)
don't think it either! but especially the crypt method can give you up to 30M/hr if done manually and I bet at least 20M/hr if botted! even though I don't think #1 is botting I can imagine that this could be done this way.


He could have even more Bonus Experience % too, so it's not far fetched.

Quote (ekunholy @ Aug 27 2012 05:44am)
bad gear, man
thats all about your experience

from lvl 20 to 21 need 34.5m exp
i've got it with one full a3 run with 31% gem in helm
this run takes 90-110min

and obv. i'm playin ww barb


Is that solo play? WW Barbs are sort of overpowered at the moment, so I'm not doubting that you could. I only have a 25% gem in my helm, and we had a very fast group for clearing it.

Quote (EVAZ @ Aug 27 2012 05:57am)
yes I get 16M each 45min run with a wizard normal gear and only 29 ruby. 20M/hr is very realistic as wizard with normal gear.. so insane gear and/or barbs should be able to earn 25M exp/hr farming a3 maybe even more (leorics included?).



very smart observation!


You can easily get a 3 piece Cain set, Leoric's Ring, and a high ruby in your helm, to get an insane amount of Bonus Experience %, and farm Act 1 all day without worrying about anything.



Quote (blackraven3000 @ Aug 27 2012 06:01am)
This is a concept that i have been trying to get people to understand from the release of Diablo 3.
The Faster You Move, The More You Get.
Faster Killing + Faster Moving = MORE
Slower Killing + Slower Moving = LESS
Enough said,, for the 50th time.

Edit: I understand that act 1 will not give you the same chance for quality rares that acts 2, 3 , and 4 drop.
I also understand that some people are already OP and can kill just as fast in any act,..
Kill The Fastest Where You Can.


That's why I went back to Act 1. In a group, it's slower to kill things in Act 3 than it is to just mundanely farm Act 1.

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