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Jul 29 2009 04:20am
[7/29/09] - If you can see it you can wear it
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In the D3 video you might want to notice something. When the barbarian killed the 1000 pounder a 2H purple axe dropped for him. When controlling the WD killing the seigebreaker, he dropped a short staff. So maybe drops are not only "you see it it's yours" but also class specific "you see it you could equip it".

Maybe this was just luck.

Maybe it was the system in place at the time.

Maybe it they are doing this so you dont have to trade.



Now that i think about it a little more it probably was just luck. This would kill trading, also would kill being able to send stuff down to your other character.


But maybe that is a way they will encourage longevity, you cant gear out a barb by playing a wizard. You would have to dual account. Or run the game through on your barb increasing play through times.



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We don't want to bias the drop system into only giving you items you want or can use, it would be a trading and economic killer. We want to encourage trading and encourage people to see worth in items even if they can't use them - give them to friends, use them for other characters, sell them, trade them, etc.

Along those lines but somewhat off-topic we do now have some restrictions on weapon types usable by each class. It's been part of the game for a while now. Allowing every class to use every weapon type was actually going to require a huge amount of time and effort and it would have meant cutting out or cutting into other features. We evaluated really how often people would want to have their class holding a weapon type that (traditionally) contradicted their class-style versus that work going in to other features - specifically having a lot more skills and a lot more skill-rune effects. We made the obvious choice which is making sure there are a ton of awesome skills and rune effects to choose from.

Because I can see the conclusions being jumped to RIGHT NOW in my old cranium - let me state that weapon types do not dictate stats. At least not wholly (barbarians can't use staves so there's no point in allowing fury related stats on them). We understand that the game is about variation, customization, and experimentation in class builds. We're not World of Warcraft, we're not looking to make weapon stats "optimal" for the types and classes that will use them. Which is to say, we're not going to put specific stats in specific amounts on each weapon of a specific type because we're making assumptions about what each class wants out of their stats. We want variation, and experimentation, and all that good stuff. These restrictions don't affect those goals, it really just means you probably won't see a wizard lugging around a two-handed axe. Kind of a bummer, but then think about what it affords us to work on with more and better looking skills, a more robust rune-skill system, etc. We want to spend our time and effort on what makes sense to making the game better.


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edit: say you do want to support a melee wiz build with gear: are you going to have weapons and armor that can still support that kind of gameplay?
IE, if you are looking for melee modifiers that generally appear on 2H weapons, and you can't equip a 2H weapon, will some kind of similar modifier show up on a 1H that the wiz can equip?

Our intention isn't to limit build potential by limiting what weapon types each class can use, and I attempted to explain that in my original post. So yes, we want to have a large variation of stats on all weapons to allow for experimentation and "off-build" customization.

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Are you planning on restricting armor choices similarly?

There still aren't any armor restriction planned. Armor is a different issue as it's shown in much the same was as Diablo II, so more types don't actually increase the animation/modeling costs like weapon types would.

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First: Will the cutting out of certain weapon types only relate to those weapons which are really antithetical to the archetype of the class, but still leave some wriggle-room? For example, will my wizard be unable to wield the massive two-hander, but still be able to swing a longsword?

The list of what weapon types are or aren't allowed for each class aren't final and could change. They're fairly logical choices and what is most commonly seen as closely tied to the hero archetypes. In our current game the wizard can't wield a two-handed sword for instance, but can still use a one handed sword and shield if so desired.

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Second: Would it be possible that this restriction may be removed in later patches or expansions?

Anything is possible. Dare to dream!
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Jul 29 2009 09:32pm
basically the same as d2
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Jul 30 2009 01:16pm
This is the thing, the drops you can see, is yours. No one else can see it or pick it up. If i remember it right, you will be able to equip everything, but bash said that they wont have specific stats for specific items. (i know i cant spell specific.. ) Dont be surprised if you find a two-handed axe with mana regeneration and spell power ( if that exists ) on it.
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Aug 12 2009 01:24pm
I'm happy they said we are not World of Warcraft.
Also I'm happy there won't be soulbound items like WoW.
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Oct 19 2009 11:01pm
Quote (High_Tides @ Wed, Aug 12 2009, 02:24pm)
I'm happy they said we are not World of Warcraft.
Also I'm happy there won't be soulbound items like WoW.


cool im glad i see this.
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Nov 2 2009 08:19pm
Quote (Niewbe @ 20 Oct 2009 06:01)
cool im glad i see this.


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thx
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Nov 30 2009 03:42pm
nice info! thx mate
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