So let me ask this question...when will a solid COD game be made again? Like no turbo things, no jet packs, no slides, no futuristic stuff. Just a solid game with solid weapons and fun maps. Kind of like MW1, WAW, and MW2. I even go as far as saying remaster those games. I don't know, thoughts?

The minimum requirements for a CoD to be good is to have ninja or dead silence with no counter. Without that, the game will be sub-par, regardless of any other feature. BO2 didn't have much soundwhoring, but it was still in the game. The last CoD before that was MW3, which had good dead silence until sitrep was patched and ruined the game. Prior to that, BO1 had ninja with no counter, but the issue was you couldn't use marathon at the same time, which is anti-rushing. MW2 was the last CoD to have ninja with no counter, plus infinite sprint, plus fast climbing. It's also the last CoD with stopping power, which is the only CoD with stopping power that was balance with cold blooded. Even CoD4 didn't balance SP, because it had jugg and uav jammer.

I've given up hope after 6 years that there will ever be a decent CoD again.

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Pretty accurate. Not to mention that spawns, hit detection, damage consistency and overall server quality have all gone done with each new installment.

WaW was terrible btw, I'm not sure why people always throw it in when talking about "good" cods. It was horribly easy, imbalanced as all hell, the maps played poorly and it was just fucking boring. The only thing great about it was the introduction to zombies, which I fucking loved playing with friends. MW and MW2 were both sick, I loved MW3 until sitrep pro made SnD unplayable. I still enjoyed the game a lot and other modes, but SnD has always been my favorite and that was one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever seen done. Bo2 was fine, if you wanted to pub and avoid soundwhoring, you could just play League. I thought that was a nice addition and if it wasn't for it being by far the worst Cod (at the time) when it came to host > skill, it would have been just as good as Mw2 imo.

To answer your question directly though, Never. Sliding will never go away, Jetpacks most likely won't be back in the next installment. As far as futuristic stuff goes, what exactly are you complaining about? Specialist classes? They're not necessary, but they really don't bother me that much. If you're playing SnD, only people doing well actually get their specialist, so it kind of removes the bad kid clear room thing that happens in other modes. They've continued to make Killstreaks less and less effective since Mw3. The maps in both Ghost and Bo3 have been good, I hated AW so I couldn't even tell you how balanced the maps were. DLC maps continue to be trash, but that's not really that surprising, people keep handing these companies a literal boatload of money to push out mediocre maps, stop buying season passes or DLC maps and maybe they'll actually start trying again. Weapons are still pretty much the same... people run and gun with 2-3 subs that are better than the rest and they change depending on patches. As far as ARs go people are still using burst guns and then there's usually one fully auto that stands above the rest. Snipers are the same, one is better than the rest... nothing new there lol. Secondary weapons were also and not that big of a factor until they whored the fuck out and gave people a gun advantage if they got lucky or if they put more money into the game. Cosmetic shit is fine, but that's all you should get for spending money. To give people superior weapons because they're willing to spend $100s of dollar on pixels is fucking stupid for a FPS.

The only consistently good games in the franchise since 2008 have been the MW series. MW/MW2 and MW3 were Great, Great, and good, The rest of the games have all had serious issues or just been boring. I'm not sure why anyone has high expectations anymore, out of 9 games we've had 2 that have been amazeballs and another one that I would classify as pretty freaking good. A lot of people disagree about MW3, but I still think it was far superior to everything else besides playing Bo2 on LAN. Bo2 on LAN was amazing, that game just made me want to slit 50% of the time when I played online.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Mar 29 2016 12:27am

Thanks for the replies. I think you're both pretty spot on. I'm going to have to disagree with the WAW statement though lol. I thought it was pretty fun to play. Anyway, if the jet packs go away I would be very happy. It just reminds me too much of Halo. The sliding is kind of like the commando OP in other games which is easy to get around. My faith is still there, but I have to agree we won't be seeing another game as good as the MW series.

lol u guys are funny battlefield 3 is still better than cod

CoD is definitely fickle about these issues.

MW2 - Good hit detection and connection for the most part. There's definitely some lag spikes every now and then, but the lag comp was balanced. The spawns were usually decent.
BO1 - Garbage hit detection and connection. They introduced wave spawns, which are absolutely terrible.
MW3 - Decent hit detection and connection..not as good as MW2. The spawns were decent as well, especially for being relatively smaller maps.
BO2 - Lag comp deaths constantly. The strength of weapons like the remington, tac, and DSR make matters even worse. Wave spawning still happens, but nowhere near as bad. I liked the spawns for the most part.
Ghosts - Perfect hit detection and connection on 360, but not as crisp on xbone. Didn't play respawn on this game, so can't comment on spawns.
AW - Fuck this game, who cares?
BO3 - First treyarch game to have good hit detection and connection, which is super odd to say the least. The spawns are really, really bad.

Since the next CoD is IW, we can assume the hit detection and connection won't be an issue, but the game is guaranteed to have amplify/awareness. It's probably going to start out with SnD kills only counting as 250 instead of 500 and won't get patched for a month, which seems to be a common trend for the last 2 CoDs.

This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on Mar 30 2016 12:01pm

It doesn't look like we will ever have a classic cod again.

As long as these things remain in the game, I will never play again.

Boost jump/exo suit
Sliding
Wall running
Specialist abilities
Fake weapons

People need to stop buying dlc, cod points and definitely need to NOT pre order cod 2016 space warfare

I give Treyarch a lot of respect for getting the boosting right in BO3. It's completely balanced, plus the hit detection works great, even in the air. AW on the other hand, did it very, very poorly. The sliding isn't too bad ever since they patched the g slide, although I think the boost slide, boost slide could be removed. I like the way Ghosts did sliding. The specialist abilities definitely need to go. Having a bunch of knifing weapons isn't an issue, especially since it puts anyone who uses them at a disadvantage.

Ghosts wasn't that bad of a game to be honest I might play it today lol

I stopped playing the newest just because it's not fun. Like everyone just flies and slides around and it just seems boring.