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Jul 29 2013 02:31pm
Quote (Kevorkian @ Jul 29 2013 02:20pm)
Kill cams have never been accurate...

If I had my way I would be completely ok with the DSR having even more delay between shots if they upped the damage. DSR should be 1shot even if in the legs or arms.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJA6c6S19PM#t=7m24s

Pretty extreme killcam perspective. 1-shot toe kill.
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Jul 29 2013 03:00pm
Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jul 29 2013 01:31pm)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJA6c6S19PM#t=7m24s

Pretty extreme killcam perspective. 1-shot toe kill.


I enjoyed the video.
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Jul 29 2013 04:28pm
i love that this patch happened, i just recently switched from ps3 bo2 to xbox bo2 and theres probly about 10 times more snipers on xbox than on ps3 its fucking ridiculous

im just pissed they nerfed the an-94 even if it was a lil bit

i play alot of groundwar and it is insane how often i come across teams of 5-9 people playing that are all quickscopers.
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Jul 30 2013 05:32am
Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jul 29 2013 03:31pm)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJA6c6S19PM#t=7m24s

Pretty extreme killcam perspective. 1-shot toe kill.


Stopped watching after he said "I'm a fan of dropshotting" .

Opinion has no value after that.

This post was edited by Kevorkian on Jul 30 2013 05:32am
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Jul 30 2013 07:15am
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Stopped watching after he said "I'm a fan of dropshotting" .

Opinion has no value after that.


first of all, i linked to a specific killcam, so wasn't really advertising the whole video. (you must have needed to refresh it to get the '#t=7m24s' to work)

secondly, care to elaborate on this? ..what's the alternative? (stand still, strafe, jumpshot, panic knife) ..I personally do everything depending on the situation.

i don't pretend to be good, because i play pubs and i'm just above average, but only bad players complain about dropshotting. pre-stalker/stock CoD there were usually 2 options to win a close quarter gunfight (panic knife/dropshot) ..lets compare them. panic knife is a 1-button insta-kill. dropshotting requires your character to lay down, then you pivot/aim and shoot your gun. i'd think the cheaper option is obvious. missing your bullets because someone dropshots implies your accuracy is bad and don't know how to jumpshot/strafe to counter it.

This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on Jul 30 2013 07:17am
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Jul 30 2013 09:10am
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first of all, i linked to a specific killcam, so wasn't really advertising the whole video. (you must have needed to refresh it to get the '#t=7m24s' to work)

secondly, care to elaborate on this? ..what's the alternative? (stand still, strafe, jumpshot, panic knife) ..I personally do everything depending on the situation.

i don't pretend to be good, because i play pubs and i'm just above average, but only bad players complain about dropshotting. pre-stalker/stock CoD there were usually 2 options to win a close quarter gunfight (panic knife/dropshot) ..lets compare them. panic knife is a 1-button insta-kill. dropshotting requires your character to lay down, then you pivot/aim and shoot your gun. i'd think the cheaper option is obvious. missing your bullets because someone dropshots implies your accuracy is bad and don't know how to jumpshot/strafe to counter it.


Just be better than the other player and outgun them or hide behind cover? Dropping is a bitch move, simple as that. I may do it occasionally, but it is still a bitch move. Just like it is a bitch move when I run around noob tubing people for the "lols".

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Jul 30 2013 10:10am
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Just be better than the other player and outgun them or hide behind cover? Dropping is a bitch move, simple as that. I may do it occasionally, but it is still a bitch move. Just like it is a bitch move when I run around noob tubing people for the "lols".


Your answers are to just "outgun them" or "be better". You act like CoD is the wild west where two people countdown to a shootout. Am I better than you if I flank you in the back? ..what if you're flanking me and I turn around, dropshot and kill you. What if I do a jumpshot while I turn around and kill you. Just because you have a harder time killing moving targets (everyone's accuracy is better against stationary targets), doesn't mean it's a "bitch move". You'd be especially screwed on older CoDs that don't have headglitches every two feet as well since you like to "hide", which apparently isn't cheap.

Dropshotting is no different than jumpshotting or strafing. These are situational maneuvers, which shine in different scenarios. It you have bad accuracy, then you'll got outplayed. It's people with bad accuracy who tend to use things like the noob tube, so I don't understand your argument.
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Jul 30 2013 10:42am
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Your answers are to just "outgun them" or "be better". You act like CoD is the wild west where two people countdown to a shootout. Am I better than you if I flank you in the back? ..what if you're flanking me and I turn around, dropshot and kill you. What if I do a jumpshot while I turn around and kill you. Just because you have a harder time killing moving targets (everyone's accuracy is better against stationary targets), doesn't mean it's a "bitch move". You'd be especially screwed on older CoDs that don't have headglitches every two feet as well since you like to "hide", which apparently isn't cheap.

Dropshotting is no different than jumpshotting or strafing. These are situational maneuvers, which shine in different scenarios. It you have bad accuracy, then you'll got outplayed. It's people with bad accuracy who tend to use things like the noob tube, so I don't understand your argument.


I do not purposely head glitch or any other kind of cheap play. Majority of the time I run and gun. Dropshotting to say the least is cheap play. I can understand screwing around with such tactics for fun, but how you could deny their cheapness is beyond me.

To be able to drop to the ground and shoot someone accurately in a fraction of a second is just dumb... Diving to prone and shooting is more understandable because of the delay where you can not shoot. Dropshotting should be given the same delay or more slowed movement imo.
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Jul 30 2013 10:55am
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I do not purposely head glitch or any other kind of cheap play. Majority of the time I run and gun. Dropshotting to say the least is cheap play. I can understand screwing around with such tactics for fun, but how you could deny their cheapness is beyond me.

To be able to drop to the ground and shoot someone accurately in a fraction of a second is just dumb... Diving to prone and shooting is more understandable because of the delay where you can not shoot. Dropshotting should be given the same delay or more slowed movement imo.


I don't remember what I all touched on in the vid and don't want to watch it back, but as someone who has played CoD for many years I can point out the differences for you. In MW2 dropshotting worked the best..but even then commando/rangers/spas or any kind of insta-kill would still prevail sometimes. There was no stalker perk or stock attachment, so people couldn't easily strafe a dropshotter. Jumpshotting was also slow and clunky, plus people die too quick to fully benefit from a jumpshot anyways in MW2.

BO1 nerfed the dropshot. They removed the ability to penetrate objects at all, so every single thing you bumped up against would prone block you. Not only that, but they made the drop speed slower and pivot speed slower. Also, guns do less dmg, so panic knifers were even more prevalent in BO1. BO1 also introduced the bad lag comp that we know today, so the game in general is bad. Jumpshotting is usually the best option here.

MW3 introduced the stalker perk, which pretty much totally rapes dropshotters in many scenarios, so strafing is usually the best option in MW3. Dropshotting still works decent in this game.

BO2 brought back the stock attachment, but due to the 10 point system, most people don't use it on anything besides ARs. Droping to the ground is still just as slow as it was in BO1, but the pivot speed is even slower, so it's even more nerfed. BO2 also brought back the same lag comp that was in BO1, so it's also a bad game in general. Again, jumpshotting is usually the best option.

I'm just trying to do you a favor, because announcing publicly that you think dropshotting is "cheap" instantly implies you're bad at the game to anyone who actually trys hard and/or is a competitive player. You didn't comment on whether or not your think jumpshotting is cheap as well? You'd probably throw up in your mouth if you watched any competitive gameplays since they jump and drop constantly.
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