even without anything at zombies... all you have to do is kill zombies before they kill you... as long as you have enought ammo, you can easly survive. In multiplayer, you play against real person. Which mean they have strategies. Zombies doesnt have a brain... they just walk/run at you...And even if you camp, its challenging... you cant know when someone is gonna come in your sight, or if someone is gonna be in your back, again, zombies doesnt hide. They do suicide mission by running at you.

I guess you looked over my main point saying grief mode. You play against real people there... You play against people that have strategies as well.
I also mentioned you can turn off supernaturals (max ammos/insta kill etc...) Makes it a lot harder with ammo.
When it all comes down to it, it depends on how you play.

I agree with the MP. I was just trying to say that anyone can make the game easier.
If people want to take the easy way out, they shouldn't complain about how easy it is. There are plenty of ways to challenge yourself.

I agree with you at some points, but i mean, even if you turn the supernaturals off, if you have ammo, you can survive, as soon as you dont have any, you have high chance to die. For grief, ik its challenging, but everytime i was doing grief, people was always doing their asshole, blocking each other, knifing people when trying to revive, it sucked

Preventing people from reviving is a huge part of grief. Lol. That is like saying,"man I was playing CTF and they dude kept killing me when I was going to take the flag, it was bullshit."
It just a different play style that you have to adjust to (the challenging part)

I also agree with you at some points. But my main opinion remains the same.
Just because you don't challenge yourself, doesn't make it not challenging

Cutting people to stop the revive is not fair... You die, the 4 in the other team just non stop cutting... If they want to do player vs player, go in multiplayer...not zombies mode

Also, i dont realy like the maps in black ops 2 zombies... You always need to turn the powers, build things and all...i miss the time on WaW when there was only 1 map, like 8 windows, and each player was just defending their windows was so fun! Now people are running everywhere, and mw im standing in a random room, lost, trying to find my way out, and getting lost again

Grief Is player vs player... Whole point of the mode. Lol.
You can counter the knives by laying down while reviving.

I agree sometimes the power bullshit can get annoying. Sometimes I want to just jump on and kill shit. However, if I am lazy I will just play Town, Bus Depot, Farm or Nuketown.
Also, the easter eggs can be hard and fun to do with some people you know. As well as just trying some other rand fun shit.
You can do a game only wall guns.
As I said before, head shots only.
Many other things. Be creative.
Just change it up when you get bored.

This post was edited by Loathe on Oct 25 2013 09:59am

Turning power on is "challenging" for you.

Gets lost in big maps and struggles to turn on power, but says it isn't challenging lol.

Zombies is the same shit every time. Grief was the only interesting part. I'm not entertained by playing a mode that you have to intentionally not do certain things to make it challenging, I prefer to have a challenge while trying my hardest, which I've never had while playing zombies. If you love zombies, have at it. I just have never understood the love around it. After 20-30 rounds I would always just give up, even when playing with friends.

Its not challenging for me... Its just boring... And everytime i do zombies with friends or just random persons online, they are always like: dont kill the last one! Dont kill the last one! I need to find every part of the gun! I need to get the Giant dude to open the door and get the gun!...so 50% of the game is finding his items and opening thins, and the other 50% is killing zombies. So then ill go back to multiplayer cause im wasting xp!

If you use an overpowered gun or stay in an easy loop then it sounds like you intentionally play in a way to make it not challenging.

Equivalent of camping with a target finder and LMG behind a riot shield.


I wish every zombie map had a grief mode... Nuketown grief would be pretty fun.



Either ignore them and kill anyways or do not play with bad randoms.

I build shit while I kill zombies.

This post was edited by Kevorkian on Oct 25 2013 10:59am