was that the ump from mw2? ithinkso

Not to mention they made up for it by adding the most op gun in the game with the new map pack. You can fucking dome people from across the map without even pumping, such bs rofl

Yes this was true when the game first came out, but there was no need to increase the recoil on the smgs. Now any ar is OP if you are moor than 30 feet away.
lmg needed to be nerfed not buffed.

we must be playing a different game because the black ops 2 im playing clearly has broken smgs now. close range is about it, the added recoil was fucking overkill.

and you must be half, if not 2/3 retarded because ars are now superior to smgs in every single way, with the exception of hipfiring, which actually i cant tell you how many people i see with an an-94 laser sight, i digress, full run speed? fractionally noticeable vs assault rifles, quick ads? slap on quick draw on your ar and youre good to go, fast mags covers fast reload speed, laser sight on ar to increase hipfire spread? check...

ars are now drastically overpowered compared to the smgs.

Have you heard of the placebo effect? I think you are experimenting something similar. The change was minor, it increased the recoil in a small amount of º, as the PC notes state. So if you feel the SMGs are broken you are either exagerating or just having this "placebo effect"

... there is noticeable recoil - it's not a "minor change"

.... no, its a big difference.

Ya, because using primary gunfighter and 3 attachments to even it out really means the gun is broken...

this i played without looking at the update and i was using the msmc and i was like holy shit there is a lot more recoil on it and my friend said yeah they nerfed it and made it have more recoil