Why do you say that?

I don’t mind the slower pace gameplay at all. And the mechanics and weapons and TTK are perfect. Just the maps are pretty poor in my opinion. They lack the traditional 3 lane system. I think if you took the WW2 maps or even the BO4 maps and used them with this game it would be better

The more I play and get used to the maps it’s less of a problem though.

Spawn system is a little fucked too. Spawn trapping is really easy, and you can get really close before spawns flip, so makes the spawn trap even more fucked.

Also shotguns are too OP, the range is fucking absurd on them. I don’t know about console, but on PC it’s the most OP weapon and like 60% or more of the lobby uses them

Beta was better because smgs were better and there was more of a run and gun style

Now there's a lot a campers and crappy things to deal with, claymores, overpowered shotguns, riot shields and rpgs are a big meta now.

There's only really one gun that's always viable and I don't want to use the M4 all the time. I can do fine with smgs, but basically by getting into tight spaces and holding angles because you get punished for moving because of how loud footsteps are and how slow people play just holding angles usually and sound whoring. There's also SBMM in the game atm

Supposedly there's a big overhaul coming, with a regular mini map coming back so you can actually see where campers are and how many are holding a location etc. which I think will help, and hopefully a change to footstep volume should encourage a better flow. 20 kills being the high in several Domination games and seeing pros go negative just tells us how small the skill gap is right now.

Said it better than I could have.

And @ the bold, please for the love of god be true. If they bring back a functioning mini map I will gladly give this game a other try.

Totally understandable. I guess I never realized how many different details changed between beta and the release. I'll be greatly looking forward to this new overhaul if it comes.

Should just put their hand up, admit they fucked up, remove all current maps and implement direct copies of MW2 maps

Win fucking win

What do you mean by functioning mini map?

I haven't really played cod since mw3 but the mini map is pretty much the same as it's always been in them games?

totally okay with this!
the maps in the game now are absolutely garbage.

They removed the system where when an enemy shoots a red dot shows on the map. It works for both teams so no one has an advantage, but I really don't like it. They have added a PubG style like compass thing that shows the red dots for enemy fire, but it doesn't work imo.

What really? I didn't even know this.. just thought it was normal mini map type from early cod games