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Nov 28 2016 04:01pm
I really just hate the movement system. If it was boots on the ground I'd play it.
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Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Nov 28 2016 02:52pm)
Sad reality indeed. One thing I've found frustrating about the hate on certain games is how respawn hate influences search and destroy hate. I had a shitload of fun playing search on Ghosts, but people hated the respawn so much, so the bangwagon hate was too great and my friends stopping playing it. I never used cheap shit like the remington, thermal LMGs, IEDs, riot shields, or amplify, yet I still have a 2.56 KDR in SnD, because the game was made to benefit the better player more often than not. It has infinite sprint and flawless hit detection, plus the maps have flanks, rather than mirrored maps to ADS.

I only have a couple friends who play IW nowadays, but I can always get a full party on MWR. Some of the haters have yet to play the game other than the beta, but the beta didn't have search, so they're judging based on nothing. They complain about boosting, yet the boosting is extremely nerfed compared to BO3.

I much prefer dropping 10+ kills in >10 minutes on IW over >10 kills in 12+ minutes on MWR.


^ Bold


Technically camping and aiming at a door is skilled in the sense that it can be a smart play. It's not impressive, but it's smart. Using the word skillful doesn't fit imo. I don't love jetpacks, but I don't hate them either, but they do help counter "campers." When it comes to pubs I think jetpacks increase the skillgap. The hit detection has been fine in pubs apart from the shitty aim assist with the SMGs imo.

My only two cents with the competitive scene is I have to admit watching the pros play MWR wagers has been way more exciting to watch than IW scrims.


the thing about it is preaiming should always be an advantage, otherwise it serves no function, control of an area should always be an advantage, and the other team should be punished for giving up it, it's like saying in league "oh my team never contests dragon....... but i want the benefits of dragon without actually doing any work for it !"
call of duty doesn't take skill to shoot people, anybody can do that and that's never been what separates pros from top level snd players, it's smarts, situational awareness, teamwork, and space control, THAT is what call of duty is about. shooting people is just a side effect of all those things.

E: and yesh, MWR Wagers are fun, i've been watching alot of jay's tournaments/wagers while modding in his chat. i don't typically watch cod though, it's a game that usually bores me to watch but i love playing.

This post was edited by Sasori on Nov 28 2016 09:09pm
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Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Nov 28 2016 03:52pm)
Sad reality indeed. One thing I've found frustrating about the hate on certain games is how respawn hate influences search and destroy hate. I had a shitload of fun playing search on Ghosts, but people hated the respawn so much, so the bangwagon hate was too great and my friends stopping playing it. I never used cheap shit like the remington, thermal LMGs, IEDs, riot shields, or amplify, yet I still have a 2.56 KDR in SnD, because the game was made to benefit the better player more often than not. It has infinite sprint and flawless hit detection, plus the maps have flanks, rather than mirrored maps to ADS.

I only have a couple friends who play IW nowadays, but I can always get a full party on MWR. Some of the haters have yet to play the game other than the beta, but the beta didn't have search, so they're judging based on nothing. They complain about boosting, yet the boosting is extremely nerfed compared to BO3.

I much prefer dropping 10+ kills in >10 minutes on IW over >10 kills in 12+ minutes on MWR.


^ Bold


Technically camping and aiming at a door is skilled in the sense that it can be a smart play. It's not impressive, but it's smart. Using the word skillful doesn't fit imo. I don't love jetpacks, but I don't hate them either, but they do help counter "campers." When it comes to pubs I think jetpacks increase the skillgap. The hit detection has been fine in pubs apart from the shitty aim assist with the SMGs imo.

My only two cents with the competitive scene is I have to admit watching the pros play MWR wagers has been way more exciting to watch than IW scrims.


You're riding IW dick too hard to reason with, learn what lag comp is.

Remmington was never cheap in Ghosts, honey badger was.

This post was edited by Noobalator on Nov 29 2016 05:06am
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Mauler LMG best gun in IW by far

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Quote (Sasori @ Nov 28 2016 09:05pm)
the thing about it is preaiming should always be an advantage, otherwise it serves no function, control of an area should always be an advantage, and the other team should be punished for giving up it, it's like saying in league "oh my team never contests dragon....... but i want the benefits of dragon without actually doing any work for it !"
call of duty doesn't take skill to shoot people, anybody can do that and that's never been what separates pros from top level snd players, it's smarts, situational awareness, teamwork, and space control, THAT is what call of duty is about. shooting people is just a side effect of all those things.

E: and yesh, MWR Wagers are fun, i've been watching alot of jay's tournaments/wagers while modding in his chat. i don't typically watch cod though, it's a game that usually bores me to watch but i love playing.

I think your point is more relativant in AW, but the adjustments made to BO3, and even moreso IW, have nerfed boosting's capabilities quite a bit imo. Clutching in BO3/IW is actually possible compared to AW. Anyone could be anywhere at anytime in AW. The automantling is not forgiving in IW from my experience so far. I've died a lot while shooting over dropoffs..lol. You either have enough boost or you have to stop shooting to lean towards the ledge. Shooting and gripping at the last second has to be precise.

I hope things go back to boots on the ground, but I at the same time I still think boosting in BO3/IW is fine in its own right. I loved the skill gap of SnD lines of sight on Fringe for example. I learned something new every time I watched a tourney.

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You're riding IW dick too hard to reason with, learn what lag comp is.

Remmington was never cheap in Ghosts, honey badger was.

An astute observation. The ad hominem cleared everything up. I agree with you now /s

From my personal experience: MW2 good connection. BO1 poor connection. MW3 good/decent connection. BO2 poor/decent connection. Ghosts good connection. AW poor connection. BO3 good connection.

I've watched every video there is describing lag comp, so I know what it is. The intention is to provide the same experience for everyone, but when someone has really bad internet and someone has really good internet, there will be varying results.

That being said, you most likely have poor internet, live remotely, or are attributing poor reflexes to getting killed fast. You probably don't realize your footsteps made noise, you're on radar, a silenced weapon makes noise, a skull shows on the map where you killed someone, someone knows the common routes better, has better decision-making skills, and/or knows the spawns better than you. If I died in ghosts, then it was my fault, not the connection.

You use a silencer? :rofl:
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Infinite warfare is straight garbage just stop defending it. You look dumb as fuck. Look I get it, you are desperate for a fps, so am I, but I will NOT buy these futuristic piles of shit. I wouldn't even play them for free
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Infinite warfare is straight garbage just stop defending it. You look dumb as fuck. Look I get it, you are desperate for a fps, so am I, but I will NOT buy these futuristic piles of shit. I wouldn't even play them for free



People like you just blow my mind. Man do you know how long cods been shit on for being the "same old cod" "same old boring shit". The cod fans wanted more. Got more. Complain. I can't take anying you say seriously because it's all personal hate. Nothing you say is really anything special besides things YOU don't like. I asked for opinions and happy I got some but it seems like every negative response to cod has been that they think jet packs etc are gay (I wouldn't have chosen them either).
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Quote (rc3mil @ Nov 30 2016 10:54pm)
Infinite warfare is straight garbage just stop defending it. You look dumb as fuck. Look I get it, you are desperate for a fps, so am I, but I will NOT buy these futuristic piles of shit. I wouldn't even play them for free

You're a trickshotter.

I'm having a discussion based on my perception and experience. Weighing in on something you know nothing about is what's dumb. It's possible to like something and at the same time analyze its faults. Do you like every aspect of every CoD you play/played..probably not.

If you're not playing IW for free, then you're obviously not playing MWR, so I'm sad you're missing out, because MWR is fun. The price might have dropped for the two, but you still have to buy them together.

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People like you just blow my mind. Man do you know how long cods been shit on for being the "same old cod" "same old boring shit". The cod fans wanted more. Got more. Complain. I can't take anying you say seriously because it's all personal hate. Nothing you say is really anything special besides things YOU don't like. I asked for opinions and happy I got some but it seems like every negative response to cod has been that they think jet packs etc are gay (I wouldn't have chosen them either).

The hypocrisy is real for sure. People want variety, but the fact is MW2 had the most balanced perks in the franchise. Sure I might have Ninja on literally every single class, but at least it's balanced, unlike the soundwhore perks of most other CoDs.
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Quote (Sargasms @ 1 Dec 2016 11:11)
People like you just blow my mind. Man do you know how long cods been shit on for being the "same old cod" "same old boring shit". The cod fans wanted more. Got more. Complain. I can't take anying you say seriously because it's all personal hate. Nothing you say is really anything special besides things YOU don't like. I asked for opinions and happy I got some but it seems like every negative response to cod has been that they think jet packs etc are gay (I wouldn't have chosen them either).


Ghosts started the shitty cod streak. Advanced Warfare was an abomination and every game since then has sucked major ass.

I didnt want change. I wanted Modern Warfare 4. You are obviously young as fuck and inexperienced with cod. Thats ok, just go play infinite warfare and shut your mouth. Thanks
Quote (ericswanson_19 @ 1 Dec 2016 12:23)
You're a trickshotter.

I'm having a discussion based on my perception and experience. Weighing in on something you know nothing about is what's dumb. It's possible to like something and at the same time analyze its faults. Do you like every aspect of every CoD you play/played..probably not.

If you're not playing IW for free, then you're obviously not playing MWR, so I'm sad you're missing out, because MWR is fun. The price might have dropped for the two, but you still have to buy them together.


The hypocrisy is real for sure. People want variety, but the fact is MW2 had the most balanced perks in the franchise. Sure I might have Ninja on literally every single class, but at least it's balanced, unlike the soundwhore perks of most other CoDs.

As i said I refuse to buy them as a pack. I will happily buy cod4 as a standalone game but will never own infinite warfare.
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Quote (rc3mil @ Dec 1 2016 05:34pm)
Ghosts started the shitty cod streak. Advanced Warfare was an abomination and every game since then has sucked major ass.

I didnt want change. I wanted Modern Warfare 4. You are obviously young as fuck and inexperienced with cod. Thats ok, just go play infinite warfare and shut your mouth. Thanks

As i said I refuse to buy them as a pack. I will happily buy cod4 as a standalone game but will never own infinite warfare.


You are young as fuck if you want a Modern Warfare 4 over a world War 2 Cod....
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