Quote (Hoos @ Jan 21 2014 01:53pm)

how does it not make sense?

you plant the bomb. then what do you do? you sit and listen for it. sure, you'll check your surroundings, but you will be listening for someone trying to defuse.

how is that even remotely fair for someone on defense? you can hear someone defuse the bomb after you plant it, so you don't have to actually sit and watch the bomb. but you expect me to sit and watch the target, instead of being able to cover a wider radius while listening for someone trying to plant.

you can't make the case "well the defense should be watching the target. if they can hear it, they'll just sit and wait, listening for someone trying to plant."

logically, it either makes sound both ways or it makes no sound at all.

i don't think it should make any noise at all, for either planting or defusing. if you're dumb enough to get defused after you planted and you have people still alive... you deserve to lose the round. you shouldn't get help by being able to hear the defuse because you're not willing to engage a gunfight to win post-plant. there's nothing wrong with watching someone go defuse and killing them in the act, but when people whine about get ninja defused or when the bomb gets defused while the planting team still has people alive... are you serious?

Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jan 21 2014 04:50pm)

ninja pro isn't a real thing, among other things in CoD. no point in talking about logic.

the deal with headsets and sound in CoD can be summed up by the lowest common denominator.. someone can't afford a headset, therefor all people shouldn't really benefit from using one.

the fake defuse used to be much more common. putting a C4 on the bomb, then waiting to hear a defuse used to be more common. people laying on the ground next to the bomb the entire round used to be less common, because the defuse noise was so loud. with a larger defuse noise radius, there were a lot more areas someone could be to protect the bomb. less thought goes into winning and/or clutching a round nowadays and i don't see that as a good thing.

due to a plant noise, it's technically more dangerous to plant, especially in a clutch situation. campers reacting to the plant noise means you're caught with a bomb in your hands. campers reacting to the bomb being planted means it's more of fair fight.

Quote (cdillon42 @ Jan 21 2014 03:52pm)

wait, wait, what? so now having to be somewhat near the bomb takes less thought into? da fuq?
in mw2 you were able to camp far away that when you heard someone defusing you had enough time to run up and kill him with 1-2 secs left, so therefore taking gunfights out of the equation, i'll just sit and wait blah blah blah. i think the only time it should make a loud noise is when you open up the case to start plant/defuse, then have it the pushing of the buttons a lot lower.

Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jan 21 2014 05:04pm)

edit: i was referring to ninja defusers in regards to people laying next to the bomb the entire round. i brainfarted and forgot to put that in..haha.

in MW2 a fake defuse was used to draw someone out from hiding.. sometimes multiple fake defuses..ie-mind games. i don't know where you think gunfights went. did you just call someone on offense who planted the bomb a camper by saying 'i'll just sit and wait blah blah blah'?

i already explained why there shouldn't be a plant noise.

Quote (cdillon42 @ Jan 21 2014 04:08pm)

i think there should be a noise opening the brief case, and yeah in mw2 you were able to go pretty far away and here someone diffusing it. so it was easy for the offensive person who just planted it to easily sound whore you. shit i didn't even need my headset to sound whore it, which creates for someone on offense to sit in a room and look one way and know when someone got close to the bomb

Quote (Ahead @ Jan 21 2014 04:12pm)

Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jan 21 2014 05:14pm)

the person is on offense though. the person pushed up, made himself vulnerable for 5 seconds and got out of there without anyone on the enemy team seeing it. why punish him? this is where the fake defuse comes in for the defense.. this tactic is rarely used now, because the defuse is so quiet.

i don't feel like repeating myself. i already mentioned why a bomb plant noise isn't a good thing. feel free to comment on my point above if you want.


It's not 100% silent though.. also, a spinning object isn't discrete. Someone could camp the bomb and wait to hear a defuse and catch the person planting, whereas in previous CoDs the camper wouldn't react might not react until the bomb is planted and the planter had time to react.

Quote (ericswanson_19 @ Jan 21 2014 05:14pm)

the person is on offense though. the person pushed up, made himself vulnerable for 5 seconds and got out of there without anyone on the enemy team seeing it. why punish him? this is where the fake defuse comes in for the defense.. this tactic is rarely used now, because the defuse is so quiet.

i don't feel like repeating myself. i already mentioned why a bomb plant noise isn't a good thing. feel free to comment on my point above if you want.


It's not 100% silent though.. also, a spinning object isn't discrete. Someone could camp the bomb and wait to hear a defuse and catch the person planting, whereas in previous CoDs the camper wouldn't react might not react until the bomb is planted and the planter had time to react.

Quote (Ahead @ Jan 21 2014 04:16pm)

the only part that isn't silent is picking up the bomb. or putting it down to plant. And who cares if you're spinning, you can't hear when someones spinning. Everyone sound whores, no one really watches the bomb.

Quote (cdillon42 @ Jan 21 2014 04:19pm)

because the offense has two bomb sites while the defense has to go defuse one, so the offensive team knows where the defensive player has to go to. while on defense if you split up in half, you could easily be outnumbered on one side and as a defensive person you actually have less time to go defuse the bomb than the offensive player has to plant the bomb.