prob cus no1 here gives a fuck lel

Agreed lol. It's a decent gun but compared to the m8 or the Fal it's total shit when talking about ARs. Calling SMGs op is also just insane, I mean if you've got someone on a reallllllly strong host with a scuf it can be annoying as fuck. For the most part though, I would say SMGs are pretty decent.



It's a little different for SC2 though, the top level competitors have shown that nothing is really that OP. Everything has a solution to it, just gotta figure out what you are doing wrong and scout properly so you can counter it.

That being said I blow at sc2 lol (Gold League Hero)

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Jun 20 2013 08:33am

I honestly never had a single issue with the m16 in cod4. I don't know if it was a pc thing (we have slightly more control with a mouse so its not as good compared to the ak and m4?) or if there were diff patches that we were/are on. m16 is great, but you HAVE to hit your first burst, or anyone decent with an m4/g36/ak47 is going to outgun you.

Using any burst gun generally means you need to hit your first burst, doesn't make the gun any less OP lol. The Type95 in mw3 was crazy good but the first burst was a must for almost every fight, unless you on that strong 1 shot host .

mw3 = mp7 tbh

Mw: none
Waw: none
Mw2: none
Bo1: none
Mw3: All guns
Bo2: All guns
Ghost: Guess all guns

gotta be high.

Thats a 3 hit kill max range silencer and no SP.

Thats better damage over range than most Assault rifles.

Up close it was one of the best guns in the game.

UMP silencer cold blooded etc had to be the best class in the game.

please tell me how ALL guns can be overpowered.that contradicts itself

The SP ump 2 shot range is pretty small iirc. I laugh every time I see someone using SP on the ump. The only reason the ump was OP is because of the 3 shot kill any distance without SP and with a silencer. The low recoil is less of an issue imo.

The MW3 striker isn't OP anymore since the damage and range got patched. It was definitely OP and game breaking back in the day though.

The truly OP guns out of the entire franchise are mostly in CoD4/WaW/BO2. SP/Jugg balance broke CoD4/WaW, so technically every gun could be OP depending on the perk. The DSR/Remington/Pistols in BO2 are very broken. The DSR/Remington get rediculous 1-shots all the time, which never make sense in the killcams. The pistols in BO2 will out gun most other guns, regardless if you see and shoot first.

Lastly, I think the MW2 famas outclasses the ACR..unless it's lagging.

This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on Jul 2 2013 09:37am

how the fuck are ALL guns overpowered