if you watched drift0r's video, then you would know that the scar-h was the only gun he pointed out showed a difference in performance.

also, lets pretend grip actually worked on all guns instead of just the scar, grip won't reduce recoil if your sights aren't up in time to shoot in the first place.

..not sure why you enjoy intentionally losing games though. i personally only have fun winning, so for you to lump entire genres of guns like smgs into categories like shock charges, target finders and the remington as things only bad kids use is kind of taking it to the extreme. you're like the t-partier of call of duty. in honor of you i'm going to go back on mw2 to kill snipers with a silenced ump and aa12 ex mags.


go to youtube and type in the subject that was talked about in this thread.. ie-drift0r and/or grip.

No. Quickdraw works amazingly well.

Thanks learned alot

I don't lose games? Where do you figure this?

What perks/weapons I use doesn't make me win/lose a game. It's if I actually care to try to win. When I try, I win. When I goof off, I tend to lose as my typical set of teammates can't do jack shit.

edit: Where did I lump SMGs with Shock Charges and the Remmington and such? Seriously? You act like I've said Shock Charges are something bad kids use, which isn't true.

I said using low recoil guns... Stuff like the ACR back in MW2, or UMP .45. Or the M27/MSMC in this game. Bad kids use them cuz they have no need to aim/burst to effectively kill.

This post was edited by 3hitk0 on Jan 3 2013 08:26pm

Type 25 is terrible with and without grip so yea its useless

Do you play with anyone from JSP?

No. I play solo mostly.

Edit: And my experience from quickdraw makes nearly no difference... there have been several times where grip would have landed me a kill, yet there has never been a time where quick draw would land me the kill.

This post was edited by 3hitk0 on Jan 3 2013 08:34pm

So, you play solo and claim if you try you don't lose? I'd like to see how you play, because quickdraw is hands down one of the best attachments in the game.

Been running grip on my M27 with a red dot combo.
More times than not I have no problem getting 30+ kills with it.
Haven't really tried out the QD/RD combo.
I drop shot and ninja kids on a regular though, but if QD will help out more I'd be willing to test it out.
How does the accuracy compare from personal opinion, if you've ran the two and tested?

it just doesn't make a difference for me.