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Jan 2 2013 02:02pm
quick draw with ext mag or fast mag
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Do your nin head shot gun challenges count if you havent completed the headshot/one shot challenge? Like if I dont have 100 head shots can I still be racking up my 150 with not attachments even though it doesnt show the count?
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longer barrel and fast mags for the scorpion seems to work amazing for snd and respawn. i wouldn't use a third attachment on it imo. silencer kills it, quickdraw isn't needed since it works fine hipfiring a lot.. laser doesn't add a noticeable change in hipfire accuracy and ex mags only adds 30 bullets.
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Jan 2 2013 05:28pm
msmc laser & long barrel

hipfire across the map np.
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Jan 2 2013 05:33pm
Quote (Stealth @ Jan 2 2013 01:09pm)
Do your nin head shot gun challenges count if you havent completed the headshot/one shot challenge? Like if I dont have 100 head shots can I still be racking up my 150 with not attachments even though it doesnt show the count?


Nope.
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Jan 2 2013 05:37pm
Personally, I love to run the MSMC with only Fast Mag / Ex Clip and 5 perks, or 4 perks and some nice equipment.

MP7, you can do the same. If you're actually using ForeGrip on this gun, you might as well just use the Vector and save yourself a point.

Skorpion, Foregrip + Silencer + Fast Mag or Ex Clip. Just make sure you're also running Scavenger though, unless you really like to pick up other people's weapons.



e/ Long Barrel is not worth a point at all, and neither is laser (if you're at the distance where laser is actually helping, then you might as well be ADS'ing, and if you're not and actually need to spray, a slightly wider area will be more beneficial.

And don't even consider Rapid Fire, it's utter trash in this game.


e2/ I am always a fan of Quickdraw if you have the extra point. However, since I don't use a secondary (I like to pick up guns), I generally end up with 2 extra points and thus just grab another perk.


e3/ If you don't run Scavenger (feel free to try it though, it's amazing combined with Claymore/Betties/C4), then I recommend Ex. Clip over Fast Mags since it'll give you like an extra 30-40 bullets per spawn. Otherwise (if using scavenger), Fast Mags is better for the huge benefit to the reload cancel time.


All in all:
Fast Mag (if scavenger) or Ex. Clip (if no scavenger) > Quickdraw / Silencer > Everything else >>>> Rapid Fire


This post was edited by DeadlySanity on Jan 2 2013 05:48pm
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i run silence/fastmags or silence/quickdraw on most smgs

sometimes laser instead of fastmags/quickdraw or longbarrel instead of silence
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Quote (DeadlySanity @ Jan 2 2013 05:37pm)
Personally, I love to run the MSMC with only Fast Mag / Ex Clip and 5 perks, or 4 perks and some nice equipment.

MP7, you can do the same. If you're actually using ForeGrip on this gun, you might as well just use the Vector and save yourself a point.

Skorpion, Foregrip + Silencer + Fast Mag or Ex Clip. Just make sure you're also running Scavenger though, unless you really like to pick up other people's weapons.



e/ Long Barrel is not worth a point at all, and neither is laser (if you're at the distance where laser is actually helping, then you might as well be ADS'ing, and if you're not and actually need to spray, a slightly wider area will be more beneficial.

And don't even consider Rapid Fire, it's utter trash in this game.


e2/ I am always a fan of Quickdraw if you have the extra point. However, since I don't use a secondary (I like to pick up guns), I generally end up with 2 extra points and thus just grab another perk.


e3/ If you don't run Scavenger (feel free to try it though, it's amazing combined with Claymore/Betties/C4), then I recommend Ex. Clip over Fast Mags since it'll give you like an extra 30-40 bullets per spawn. Otherwise (if using scavenger), Fast Mags is better for the huge benefit to the reload cancel time.


All in all:
Fast Mag (if scavenger) or Ex. Clip (if no scavenger) > Quickdraw / Silencer > Everything else >>>> Rapid Fire

i haven't noticed any difference with long barrel on any smgs besides the scorpion. i personally think it's noticeable. i also don't notice any difference with using grip on any guns, plus driftor made a video basically saying it's useless on any gun besides the scar/type and it's just creating a placebo effect.
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