The only way to have as much fun as possible in the latest two installments of halo of duty...either actually try hard and play the game like every other try hard, or equip yourself with the most obscene load out as possible and just piss people off as best as you can.

Real talk....I'm excited and hopeful that with the news about the new cod, there will be a surge in cod4 gameplay...think there will be?

What's the alternative to trying, dying and losing a lot?

Still, I would rather lose without using awareness, sixth sense, tracker, trip mines, shock charges, high caliber, and the M8, than win with those things.

I have fun winning and doing well with good things, not cheap things.

I mean don't get me wrong, it's "fun" winning and all. Like I have "fun" during a good game...but to answer your question, the opposite of trying is kind of what you said. Not using the overpowered things in the game and just using the normal, run of the mill things. Not paying extra money for additions to the game (aside from the map pack) which is what people are calling pay to win. I'd rather use a single shot, underpowered pistol the entire game with three perks that made no sense and have fun running around attempting to kill people that are taking the game seriously. Yeah, I understand people are "Paid to play" like the optic and faze people, and they take it to the next level...but I'm talking about the people who use the loadouts that exemplify someone that is "tryhard" and rage and just make the games unenjoyable. I'm probably being a little bitch, but it's just my opinion.

Do you ever do really well, but have teammates so bad that you lose anyway? Describing your class load out makes it seem like you make a lot of teammates rage. I understand the fun aspect of using a pistol though, well, besides in BO2, because they were completely broke in that game.

Pay-to-win only exists in AW with elite weapons, because they're imbalanced. None of the supply drop items in BO3 are OP.

I think taking the game seriously can happen, regardless of the class load out. As I said, I don't use anything cheap, but I'm still trying to win by simply playing the game. Do you get mad at people who jump/drop shot and consider them tryhards for not standing still? I experience this frequently where people get mad that I move around.

idk man that one shot pistol dart machine gun thing w.e it's called seems op to me

The Marshall is worse imo. Both are pretty fucking broken though and certainly does add a pay to win factor. There was a glitch to unlock all those without buying them, not sure if it's been patched though.

It's a buzzkill weapon, but isn't OP. You're not going to consistently get double kills with it, so more often than not you will die every time you see two or more people. The fact that it's usable doesn't make it OP. It has a slow reload and limited ammo. I'd much rather have 40 bullets from ex mag kuda over the shadowclaw.


Again, regarding double kills. It's a buzzkill weapon. As soon as I see someone is using it, I change my playstyle.

This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on May 2 2016 11:16am

It's a secondary though... meaning you can be a little asshole rocking an M8 who switches to that when you're rushed. You'll pick off 1-2 at distance easy with the M8 and pick up the last 1-2 kills with dual marshals without ever breaking a sweat. I know, because I've been that asshole a few times recently and I always feel bad about it. It's pretty fucking broken if you're above average.

Marshall is the biggest broken thing in the game over anything else... That gun one shots to the foot 100 meters across the map

The hitbox on it is outrageous lol. I've straight missed people by a good 3-4 feet and gotten a kill. Not to mention that it just insta headshots.