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needs some life, gl
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yeah ornate pretty much always needs life

my opinion on nate stat priority:
1.) def/life
2.) str/req
3.) dex/rep/res
4.) plr/drb/ar/etc

an ornate with no life or no %ed is rarely if ever worth much

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Quote (Isran @ May 24 2022 02:10pm)
needs some life, gl


Quote (darjkeel @ May 24 2022 02:41pm)
yeah ornate pretty much always needs life

my opinion on nate stat priority:
1.) def/life
2.) str/req
3.) dex/rep/res
4.) plr/drb/ar/etc

an ornate with no life or no %ed is rarely if ever worth much


Thanks for all the answers

I don't know if you've seen the level 27 char and 119 str needed to have an almost perfect defense (97%ed) plus some dex and mana that also contribute.
If it was red or blue with 15str etc, it would need level 48+ to equip.
Does what I have just said change the judgment of this ornate at all?

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Thanks for all the answers

I don't know if you've seen the level 27 char and 119 str needed to have an almost perfect defense (97%ed) plus some dex and mana that also contribute.
If it was red or blue with 15str etc, it would need level 48+ to equip.
Does what I have just said change the judgment of this ornate at all?


no sry
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Quote (emersoux @ Jun 4 2022 05:45pm)
Thanks for all the answers

I don't know if you've seen the level 27 char and 119 str needed to have an almost perfect defense (97%ed) plus some dex and mana that also contribute.
If it was red or blue with 15str etc, it would need level 48+ to equip.
Does what I have just said change the judgment of this ornate at all?


you can have str and life on an ornate it still be lvl 30 req and have -req iirc

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Quote (emersoux @ 4 Jun 2022 17:45)
Thanks for all the answers

I don't know if you've seen the level 27 char and 119 str needed to have an almost perfect defense (97%ed) plus some dex and mana that also contribute.
If it was red or blue with 15str etc, it would need level 48+ to equip.
Does what I have just said change the judgment of this ornate at all?


Quote (Isran @ 4 Jun 2022 18:16)
no sry


Quote (ruth1ess @ 4 Jun 2022 18:24)
you can have str and life on an ornate it still be lvl 30 req and have -req iirc


yes you can have 60 life under lvl 30 reqs on armor
a good lld ornate would be 80+ed 40+life -30req
9 str is max for lvl 30 armors, so a great lld nate would have 5-9 str too

Quote (darjkeel @ 24 May 2022 13:41)
yeah ornate pretty much always needs life

my opinion on nate stat priority:
1.) def/life
2.) str/req
3.) dex/rep/res
4.) plr/drb/ar/etc

an ornate with no life or no %ed is rarely if ever worth much


what i meant by this is that the two most important, above-all-else modifiers an ornate needs is defense and life
if one or the other is missing entirely, it will be very rare to be worth keeping. youll know because itll have every other good mod available and only then be worth some change probably
only after checking those two boxes, you can look for str or reqs. dex res and rep are nice but don't swap one for one with str or req. like if it has dex AND rep instead of -reqs thats cool
try to imagine if str and req were equal (combined) in value as def or life. dex combined with some res might be about as valuable as one of str or reqs
two #2s to equal one #1, two #3s to equal one #2 and so on. so having max dex rep and two resistances probably still doesnt (or just barely) make up for the lack of life or ed
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Jun 5 2022 01:20pm
I am convinced that you are right after reading these excellent arguments.
For trade, this armor has no value, but like any item we find, the rule is to keep it until you have something better to take its place.

For my part this topic is closed, I am very grateful for everyone's collaboration
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