blah i had to delete my message explaining why it simple got to long and i had to delete before all the " tldr's " came in

but yah +skills basically suck, with out going into any detail the shortest and simplest way that i can explain the reason Why with out spamming the screen are these top 3 reasons

#1 + skills actually are good on defense bvb builds, but that is about it, and suck on other barbs, what complicates this is defense bvb builds are not the best type of bvb barb, bleeders are if i am not mistaken, or anywho shouldnt represent the majority of barbs

#2 for all other barbs the main skills used all get hit by diminishing returns and will give you Zero0-1% per if that

#3 i wasnt going to add in but yolo roughly i think in terms of dmg +2barb is going to be roughly around 20strength, where as 1max is around 3-4str and 1min is around 5-6str so 14min would be simular to 70-84str and 20max would be simular to 60-80 Big difference
and in damage comparison is that of almost +8 barb skills

stopping here with a quick summary generally if im not making a bvb defense barb i am simply just not trading 14min or 20max or -30req for +2barb skills which basically puts that stat at the bottom and worst-in-slot imo

This post was edited by Jvun7 on Mar 14 2021 01:28pm

Just by looking at 2 identical weapons, this is indeed false how these were made

They were made to order, just like every other item he made, psvises,nates,scepters, and he made regular boots. That were 30/10 4040 39 res..I think they might have even been hfd

Also on the other note #4 & #5 Russian BH is debatable on which one is better.

#4 Russian BH have +1 max dmg more, +16 more str and +3 hp overall vs #5 BH
#5 Russian BH have +12 min dmg more and more AR overall vs #4 BH

Depending if you want +str for more max dmg as well & build flexibility on gear choice or higher min dmg for crushing your opponents.

Which one ya think is better?

This post was edited by Jonz-Alpha on Mar 14 2021 02:43pm

you never go full retard

Gimme the str all day err day

Did play with some numbers (BH & Mart 170str base and 200str base each) and compared the avg phys ww dmg

Seems like +2 skill is pretty much equal to +24 str and +1 equal to +12 str

Regards

This post was edited by SIVIART on Mar 14 2021 03:04pm

Interesting

So a 300 +2 mart is arguably worse then 310 +20strn

Yes, but comparing same base dmg +2 is better

This post was edited by SIVIART on Mar 14 2021 03:12pm

True. More ar and it always seems to crit more

Agreed same reason 1 is better than 2