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Nov 14 2022 09:11pm
My blood tests came back (general physical)

Everything is normal except I have high cholesterol and high LDL

(Cholest was like 230 and ldl was 160)

After reading a few articles and listening to some clips

It sounds like everyone has a different opinion and there are tons of factors at play i.e., having high cholesterol or ldl isn't necessarily bad

For example the tg to hdl ratio might be more important? My ratio is 1.1
Normal value is like .5 to 1.5


I m going to go over with my doctor but appointment isn't for a couple weeks and I don't think he knows what day it is half the time I see him. Was just curious how can all the blood panels be normal but my cholesterol and ldl are unhealthy ?


Also have Zero history of heart disease on either side of family

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Nov 15 2022 11:48pm
are you on steroids? all steroids mess with cholesterol as steroids derive from it ('sterol')
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Quote (jadeoner @ Nov 15 2022 11:48pm)
are you on steroids? all steroids mess with cholesterol as steroids derive from it ('sterol')


Nope

They'd prob affect other blood measures I'm sure

Everything else is good
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Nov 18 2022 05:13am
Quote (hoipolloi @ Nov 15 2022 05:11am)
My blood tests came back (general physical)

Everything is normal except I have high cholesterol and high LDL

(Cholest was like 230 and ldl was 160)

After reading a few articles and listening to some clips

It sounds like everyone has a different opinion and there are tons of factors at play i.e., having high cholesterol or ldl isn't necessarily bad

For example the tg to hdl ratio might be more important? My ratio is 1.1
Normal value is like .5 to 1.5


I m going to go over with my doctor but appointment isn't for a couple weeks and I don't think he knows what day it is half the time I see him. Was just curious how can all the blood panels be normal but my cholesterol and ldl are unhealthy ?


Also have Zero history of heart disease on either side of family


The vast majority of scientific evidence supports the idea of LDL being universally bad. It's well established that LDL is a direct cause of heart disease, artery disease and strokes. TGs are also bad but not as much. Science isnt perfect so there will be a minority of studies showing LDL isnt that bad, but most of the ppl who promote this view are on serious copium trying to justify their hedonistic unhealthy habits because foods rich in sat fats are delicious as fuck. So your cholesterol can be a little off because you eat foods rich in saturated fats despite being healthy otherwise. Smoking also worsens cholesterol but iirc it lowers HDL only. Source: im an MD.

Doctors in general dont have a differing opinion. Im from Europe and in my country they use different units, but the upper limits differ so that if ur a young healthy person your LDL limit is higher, but if you have cardiovascular risks like diabetes or high BP, then we suggest a lower upper limit for cholesterol.

Tl;dr if your LDL is elevated you need to get it lower. Lose weight if you have abdominal fat and prefer fish/plant based food (and poultry), avoid sat fats like dairy, red meat etc. Quit smoking if you do and dont use anabolic steroids.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Nov 18 2022 05:16am
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The vast majority of scientific evidence supports the idea of LDL being universally bad. It's well established that LDL is a direct cause of heart disease, artery disease and strokes. TGs are also bad but not as much. Science isnt perfect so there will be a minority of studies showing LDL isnt that bad, but most of the ppl who promote this view are on serious copium trying to justify their hedonistic unhealthy habits because foods rich in sat fats are delicious as fuck. So your cholesterol can be a little off because you eat foods rich in saturated fats despite being healthy otherwise. Smoking also worsens cholesterol but iirc it lowers HDL only. Source: im an MD.

Doctors in general dont have a differing opinion. Im from Europe and in my country they use different units, but the upper limits differ so that if ur a young healthy person your LDL limit is higher, but if you have cardiovascular risks like diabetes or high BP, then we suggest a lower upper limit for cholesterol.

Tl;dr if your LDL is elevated you need to get it lower. Lose weight if you have abdominal fat and prefer fish/plant based food (and poultry), avoid sat fats like dairy, red meat etc. Quit smoking if you do and dont use anabolic steroids.


Cool thanks

I was surprise it's high since I workout 4-5 days a week and eat a decent diet


Like 90% of my diet is vegetables, meats, fruit, nuts/seeds

Haven't eaten added sugar in about a year

Only carb source is fruit, honey, rice, and quinoa



I guess the saturated fat is getting me. I eat plenty of fatty meat, some sour cream, some fat milk
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Nov 20 2022 11:16am
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Cool thanks

I was surprise it's high since I workout 4-5 days a week and eat a decent diet


Like 90% of my diet is vegetables, meats, fruit, nuts/seeds

Haven't eaten added sugar in about a year

Only carb source is fruit, honey, rice, and quinoa



I guess the saturated fat is getting me. I eat plenty of fatty meat, some sour cream, some fat milk


Its probably the foods i bolded. Workout/physical activity is known to raise HDL, but LDL is practically affected only through diet (and anabolic steroids), not exercise. Obesity can also worsen your cholesterol levels but i assume youre in shape. Sugar has low bearing on cholesterol levels as well. So yea you just gotta favor fish, chicken and other proteins low in sat fats. You can indulge every now and then obviously. Have you seen your doc yet? You also have to test your cholesterol after a while to see the trend as well and account for possible coincidence

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