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Mar 7 2017 11:34am
So fall of 2016 I had a terrible sensation in my middle back. It came on slowly and wasn't a sudden occurrence, noticed it after bench pressing which I do with a powerlift style (Chest high, arched but not extreme back with butt touching seat). Same level as lower shoulder blade and could even say under the shoulder blade. Suddenly one week it was bad that it hurt to stretch my left arm (this sensation is on the left side of spine). I'd say the first week it was acute and now it's a chronic mix of numbness and slight pain when I flex the area ( either shoulder blade adduction, lat flex). Last time I attempted incline bench press it flared up the region again for a week and went back to a chronic numbness and pain with flexing. Currently it's still the chronic numbess feeling and I've noticed that my abs on the same side will sometimes have a sensation of numbness but it only happened one day and was intermediate.
Small back story is I've been lifting weights for 3-4ish years with small breaks. Powerlifting. Hurt my middle back I'd say in the same area in 2013 moving a piano, feels like maybe the same numbness but wasn't painful that I still lifted every week and the numbness went away sometime in 2015 I think. Had a CT scan in 2013, they said they couldn't see anything more unless I got a MRI which I never got. I've also went to the chiropractor, got a I think CT scan aswell, couldn't see anything without further imaging and the work he did on me didn't seem to help if I remember correctly.

My question is with these symptoms which kind of doctor would be best to see? Can only think of Chiropractor, Spine and back, or neurologist?
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Mar 7 2017 01:12pm
So you feel chronic numbness and pain? That sound like a perfectly good reason to visit a professional yesterday.

Back issues should always be taken seriously.
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So you feel chronic numbness and pain? That sound like a perfectly good reason to visit a professional yesterday.

Back issues should always be taken seriously.


Guess I was waiting for it to subside.. What professional do you think would be best to visit?
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Guess I was waiting for it to subside.. What professional do you think would be best to visit?


It will depend on several factors b/c MDs, chiropractors, and health professions in general essentially function along a spectrum. I have used VERY different doctors and chiropractors. I have been to a neurologist, an osteopath, etc., etc.. Here are my top suggestions:

- chiropractor
- GP then neurologist or another option (e.g., scans, surgery, another specialist) if that is recommended. The problem here is that the GP may just be guessing, because just like the chiro you saw, more information may be needed.
- osteopath
- sports medicine doc

If it's your back, a REALLY GOOD chiro is by far the best option, but a lesser chiro may be your worst option. A really good chiro is not going to work on an injury/imbalance without having the same info your GP would need to make a referral unless it's an obvious problem. But he/she should be able to get a better idea of what your GP needs to know in order to make a referral because the chiro is going to be a better diagnostician than your MD for this area of physiology.

There are a variety of "thermal" scans available via some chiropractic offices and they can sometimes be quick, inexpensive, and perfectly diagnostic.

I speak from the experience of having several sports injuries and I have found great success and great failures from literally every type of practitioner I've mentioned. Physio, too. I've had a GP tell me there's nothing that can be done for an injury that my chiropractor was able to resolve almost immediately; I've had a neurologist notice something immediately and without prompt that my dentist and GP didn't notice about my jaw--even when I had mentioned it to them several times and they had checked it out. It goes on and on, with basically every injury I've ever had. Keep trying and someone will get it right :)

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Mar 7 2017 02:22pm
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Mar 7 2017 12:22pm)
It will depend on several factors b/c MDs, chiropractors, and health professions in general essentially function along a spectrum. I have used VERY different doctors and chiropractors. I have been to a neurologist, an osteopath, etc., etc.. Here are my top suggestions:

- chiropractor
- GP then neurologist or another option (e.g., scans, surgery, another specialist) if that is recommended. The problem here is that the GP may just be guessing, because just like the chiro you saw, more information may be needed.
- osteopath
- sports medicine doc

If it's your back, a REALLY GOOD chiro is by far the best option, but a lesser chiro may be your worst option. A really good chiro is not going to work on an injury/imbalance without having the same info your GP would need to make a referral unless it's an obvious problem. But he/she should be able to get a better idea of what your GP needs to know in order to make a referral because the chiro is going to be a better diagnostician than your MD for this area of physiology.

There are a variety of "thermal" scans available via some chiropractic offices and they can sometimes be quick, inexpensive, and perfectly diagnostic.

I speak from the experience of having several sports injuries and I have found great success and great failures from literally every type of practitioner I've mentioned. Physio, too. I've had a GP tell me there's nothing that can be done for an injury that my chiropractor was able to resolve almost immediately; I've had a neurologist notice something immediately and without prompt that my dentist and GP didn't notice about my jaw--even when I had mentioned it to them several times and they had checked it out. It goes on and on, with basically every injury I've ever had. Keep trying and someone will get it right :)


Lol.

The day and age when somebody recommends seeing a pseudo-physician before actual physicians. sad.
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Lol.

The day and age when somebody recommends seeing a pseudo-physician before actual physicians. sad.


A chiropractor is not a pseudo-physician. It's just another health care practitioner. People like solutions, not systematic arrogance. You go to who can fix you.
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Mar 7 2017 09:48pm
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This post was edited by dark-soul on Mar 7 2017 10:02pm
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Mar 7 2017 12:37pm)
A chiropractor is not a pseudo-physician. It's just another health care practitioner. People like solutions, not systematic arrogance. You go to who can fix you.


Yes it's a pseudo-physician, a wannabe MD/DO, they suck and usually fuck things up because of their lack of medical knowledge and are usually incompetent. Fuck them.
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Mar 8 2017 04:32am
Quote (LolV @ Mar 7 2017 11:03pm)
Yes it's a pseudo-physician, a wannabe MD/DO, they suck and usually fuck things up because of their lack of medical knowledge and are usually incompetent. Fuck them.


Hey watch it, my old friend's little brother's girlfriend's cousin is a chiropractor.
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Mar 8 2017 10:20am
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Mar 7 2017 03:22pm)
It will depend on several factors b/c MDs, chiropractors, and health professions in general essentially function along a spectrum. I have used VERY different doctors and chiropractors. I have been to a neurologist, an osteopath, etc., etc.. Here are my top suggestions:

- chiropractor
- GP then neurologist or another option (e.g., scans, surgery, another specialist) if that is recommended. The problem here is that the GP may just be guessing, because just like the chiro you saw, more information may be needed.
- osteopath
- sports medicine doc

If it's your back, a REALLY GOOD chiro is by far the best option, but a lesser chiro may be your worst option. A really good chiro is not going to work on an injury/imbalance without having the same info your GP would need to make a referral unless it's an obvious problem. But he/she should be able to get a better idea of what your GP needs to know in order to make a referral because the chiro is going to be a better diagnostician than your MD for this area of physiology.

There are a variety of "thermal" scans available via some chiropractic offices and they can sometimes be quick, inexpensive, and perfectly diagnostic.

I speak from the experience of having several sports injuries and I have found great success and great failures from literally every type of practitioner I've mentioned. Physio, too. I've had a GP tell me there's nothing that can be done for an injury that my chiropractor was able to resolve almost immediately; I've had a neurologist notice something immediately and without prompt that my dentist and GP didn't notice about my jaw--even when I had mentioned it to them several times and they had checked it out. It goes on and on, with basically every injury I've ever had. Keep trying and someone will get it right :)



Rew, I love you, but I absolutely hate how much you like chiropractors. A physical therapist can almost do everything a chiropractor can do on top of everything else that they already do that a chiropractor can't.
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