Anyone have some sciency articles on it?
I've never had a preworkout that contained it such as the old Jack3d.

From my understanding, it's technically not illegal and it's starting to make a come back.

Pros/Cons of it? Risks? Your personal experiences?

Thanks

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read here:

https://examine.com/supplements/1,3-dimethylamylamine/

http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/ProductsIngredients/ucm346576.htm

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Sep 17 2016 03:48pm

It's a sympathomimetic drug which will cause a release of shits which will cause cardiac arrest if combined with other factors such as undiagnosed heart conditions or stimulants.

It should be regulated and prescribed by doctors, it's unsafe. Especially if there were deaths caused by it.

Well there's been deaths by caffeine, apples, water, bowls of soup.

I know the basics of it, looking for something more in-depth as well as personal experiences.

I've never had it on its own. I've had it in Razor8 and 1MR.

I can tell you that Razor8 and 1MR had some things in common:
- Tasted very bad (bitterness)
- Lots of tunnel vision focus
- Euphoric feeling / great focus on the workout
- I'm stim tolerant, I went from needing 3/4 of a scoop to 1.5 scoops to 2 scoops to maintain the same effects
- Huge drop-off after in mood, feeling as if I'm going to die, huge depressing feeling, like a panic attack lasting 1-3 hours post workout... I was fine I knew what was going on but I felt bad (Razor8 wasn't as bad, 1MR was bad)

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Sep 17 2016 04:01pm

Well it's a powerful stimulant, more than what you mentioned, and attaches to receptors which certain medications do, caffeine and all that other shit doesn't do that as much as this would.

Simply put if you have an undiagnosed heart condition or are at risk for hypertension I'd advise you not to take it. It's pretty much meth that will cause vasoconstriction and palpitations (if you're at risk for it).

It's synthetic and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that doesn't need it, because stimulants are not good for you in general and can have deleterious effects on the body.

Causes peripheral vasoconstriction plus the other ingredients will give you a pump so they have contradictory effects which is not good.
It will cause you to crash because it's a powerful stimulant (just like meth) which will pump you up at first with all the NE+serotonin then those levels will drop causing anxiety and depression, it's not natural just don't take it or switch to a better pre.

anecdotal evidence online can be quite unreliable

just saying

you will eventually die for no reason at all. is that justification for just sparing yourself the hardship and killing yourself now? people die from stupid things because of extremely rare circumstances. there was a man in the states who induced kidney failure from drinking iced tea.... because he drank like 2 gallons a day for months. a small dose of 1,3dmaa could kill you, or you could drink a stupidly large amount of anything that could also kill you. this is apples to oranges, have some common sense

I'd rather die with a reason than for no reason at all.

But things aside, I'm not taking it nor planning on it.
I was just curious with them bringing back DMAA & every post I've read people reminiscing about the old Jack3d formula which contained DMAA.