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Aug 8 2016 03:36am
Would obese clients benefit more from higher fat ratios than lean clients? Ie. If calculating macros and deciding between .4-.7g fat per pound of bodyweight, would it be safe to assume they may have a low carb tolerance and thus the higher end fat allotment would be superior? Just a thought after reading Alan Aragon's thoughts in one of his books.

Similarly, Alan assumes a client of 25% bf (borderline obese) and who is sedentary throughout the day may also do better with fewer carbs and more fat (.6g fat per pound).
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Aug 8 2016 10:27am
I would think so.

Perhaps my Canadian asian friend will chime in
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Aug 10 2016 04:37am
Quote (HyphyIll @ Aug 9 2016 02:27am)
I would think so.

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Is that canadian asian fella the buff cloudman? in for his thoughts
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Is there a long running joke that I'm Asian? Lol I'm white af. The amazing thing about the body is that metabolism will quite quickly adjust to oxidize essentially whatever you give it. If your intake of lipids is high, fatty acid metabolism will increase, whereas if your protein intake is high your body will adjust it's amino acid metabolism accordingly, in a healthy human. In obese individuals who may or may not have issues with insulin sensitivity, there is essentially less tissue mass that will be able to make use of sugars. If that's what you mean by low carb tolerance, you could suggest that a lower carb diet (and subsequently higher fat) would make sense as long as it's isoenergetic. That said there are secondary mechanisms in exercise that can stimulate the uptake of glucose into muscle without insulin signalling that may be able to improve carbohydrate metabolism. The main mechanism is release of calcium during muscle contraction which up regulates glut4 translocation to the muscle membrane. I am not up to date on the newest literature regarding obesity and exercise nutrition however so I don't know the popular scientific opinion
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Aug 10 2016 08:39am
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Is there a long running joke that I'm Asian? Lol I'm white af. The amazing thing about the body is that metabolism will quite quickly adjust to oxidize essentially whatever you give it. If your intake of lipids is high, fatty acid metabolism will increase, whereas if your protein intake is high your body will adjust it's amino acid metabolism accordingly, in a healthy human. In obese individuals who may or may not have issues with insulin sensitivity, there is essentially less tissue mass that will be able to make use of sugars. If that's what you mean by low carb tolerance, you could suggest that a lower carb diet (and subsequently higher fat) would make sense as long as it's isoenergetic. That said there are secondary mechanisms in exercise that can stimulate the uptake of glucose into muscle without insulin signalling that may be able to improve carbohydrate metabolism. The main mechanism is release of calcium during muscle contraction which up regulates glut4 translocation to the muscle membrane. I am not up to date on the newest literature regarding obesity and exercise nutrition however so I don't know the popular scientific opinion


Ok u fkn nerd asian
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Aug 10 2016 09:53am
Quote (RyanDyerProtein @ Aug 10 2016 10:39am)
Ok u fkn nerd asian


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Aug 11 2016 10:16am
AA and schuler (and helms) already admitted that in the long run, the cho-fats ratio doesn't matter given the same protein intake, for fatloss that is.
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AA and schuler (and helms) already admitted that in the long run, the cho-fats ratio doesn't matter given the same protein intake, for fatloss that is.



Link?
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Link?


Its just the first link of google when he googles every question
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Link?


follow them on fb, I don't keep posts saved.

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Its just the first link of google when he googles every question


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