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Jan 7 2015 07:58am
Besides your creatine mono-hydrate, glutamine and protein, what other products out there help with gains/strength? Is anything like borderline illegal that works good? I guess what I'm saying is I want something damn good, but not illegal.

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Jan 7 2015 08:29am
If it existed you'd know about it already. There is no miracle product that can legally help you get huge.
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Jan 7 2015 08:40am
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because you only get in trouble if you get caught ;)
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If it existed you'd know about it already.  There is no miracle product that can legally help you get huge.

I wouldn't know because I don't surround myself with bodybuilders.

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because you only get in trouble if you get caught ;)

:ph34r: Not my cup of tea
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Jan 7 2015 09:17am
IGF-1, IGF-2, tribulus terrestris, creatine, d-aspartic acid, beta alanine, arginine, bcaas, r-ala, vanadyl sulfate,chromium picolinate, zma, gaba

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Jan 7 2015 09:22am
stick with creatine and protein(if you need)
drop the glutamine

and eat lots lift heavy, there is no shortcut. Otherwise test e in yo ass
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Jan 7 2015 09:26am
I've been lifting HARD for at least 5 months...gains/strength/size is all coming but I look around in the gym and dudes are huge. I just feel like I'm behind on something.

Edit - I mean I'm strong and my build looks decent, but you wouldn't look at me right away and be like wow he lifts. I can bench 225 15x and incline/decline 100's 10x. I feel like I'm strong just my size/personal appearance lacks.

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Jan 7 2015 09:27am
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I've been lifting HARD for at least 5 months...gains/strength/size is all coming but I look around in the gym and dudes are huge.  I just feel like I'm behind on something.


some guys take cycles of drugs for lifting. others have just been doing it for a good amount of time. keep lifting hard and you'll grow

e/ i've been lifting hard for three years and i know i still owe it more time

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some guys take cycles of drugs for lifting. others have just been doing it for a good amount of time. keep lifting hard and you'll grow

e/ i've been lifting hard for three years and know i still owe it more time

Yeah I guess you're right...takes time. I know guys who have been lifting for years and their bodies show that. So it's time and diet obviously, but just looking for a little help you know?
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Yeah I guess you're right...takes time.  I know guys who have been lifting for years and their bodies show that.  So it's time and diet obviously, but just looking for a little help you know?


try the growth factor deer antler tribulus drops for a change in routine. the better you diet the faster you grow
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