Just trying to stimulate some sort of discussion here I guess.
Here's the full pdf:

"How calorie-focused thinking about obesity and related diseases may mislead and harm public health. An alternative"

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9428230&fileId=S1368980014002559
just click "PDF" above the title to access the full text

Read/skim/whatever.

Then give your thoughts on this topic.

This paper essentially posits that a quantitative approach has exacerbated obesity. I'll hold off for now simply for discussion purposes.

This post was edited by Balla on Dec 2 2014 07:08pm

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Concur, my lord. I too cannot see!

Should be fixed.

yeah, for im taking care of it

from a community/general health standpoint they're right. For individuals like most of us on HnF, i disagree.

dis.

e: but i will say a person who watches their calories is still better off dan someone who doesnt

This post was edited by Deathslaya16 on Dec 2 2014 07:26pm

You think telling people to watch their calories as a priority may harm the community/general health? How so? What type of recommendation would you feel is superior?

most people are lazy as shiet, and being advised on lower energy, higher nutrient food choices would create better adherence. Besides that, I think the bigger problem is the level of physical activity for the general public.

There is no denying that counting macros/hitting micros/fiber is the optimal way to diet, but I just think it is one of the least likely to create adherence in the general public.

I think their point about it being harmful may be that most people are...troglodytes..

Here is a dialogue

Troglodyte: I want to lose weight.
Dietician: Count your calories and eat at a caloric deficit.
Troglodyte: How many calories do i eat?
Dietician: Optimally, you want to be around a 500 calorie deficit to lose 1 pound of fat per week. So eat about 2300 calories per day.
Troglodyte: (That's way to slow, I want to lose 2.5 pounds of fat a week like the magazines say, so i should eat a 1250 calorie deficit)

troglodyte gives up after a week because 1550 calories is bullshit. Doesn't notice a difference on the scale. determines counting calories are bullshit.

watch it as it enters my mouth


on topic doe...

iifym

eating twinkie diet not healthy


also people on calorie counting dies might avoid stuff like almonds and nuts

things with healthy benefits

counting calories might be bit harder if eating alot of fruit, not so filling, yet its healthy in moderate amounts