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Nov 13 2014 02:15am
1. How much protein do you go by?

I've heard a gram for every lb, or anything from 1.5-2g for every kg. Atm im getting around 110g daily at 71kg / 157lbs

2. How much sleep is optimal?

I sleep 8-9 hours but sometimes I sleep from 6am-1pm so I'm worried that the quality of sleep is somehow lower and therefore affects my gains. I guess it is different for everyone but any study or info would be cool

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Nov 13 2014 07:18am
Studies show that even top level natural bodybuilders achieve negligible increases in sarcoplasmic hypertrophy from anything over 1.7g per kg bodyweight.
Though some experts recommend slightly higher protein during a cut.


For the 2nd Q - the general population only requires 8 hours of sleep to function at optimal capacity. Some people require slightly more, and in rare cases people can get by on 4-6.
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Nov 13 2014 08:19am
Quote (FrozenWater @ Nov 13 2014 10:18pm)
Studies show that even top level natural bodybuilders achieve negligible increases in sarcoplasmic hypertrophy from anything over 1.7g per kg bodyweight.
Though some experts recommend slightly higher protein during a cut.


For the 2nd Q - the general population only requires 8 hours of sleep to function at optimal capacity. Some people require slightly more, and in rare cases people can get by on 4-6.


High protein in the cut aids in prolonging the 'full' feeling
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Nov 13 2014 08:35am
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High protein in the cut aids in prolonging the 'full' feeling


Lyle Mcdonald recommends it as a safety precaution for the greatest preservation of muscle mass
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Nov 13 2014 08:39am
I literally just did a whole post about this.. check the thread "flexible dieting"
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Nov 13 2014 09:25am
im interested in the answer to sleep though?
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Nov 13 2014 09:51am
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im interested in the answer to sleep though?


IIRC NREM sleep is predominately when physical recovery takes place. Chances are that sleeping from 6am-1pm would hinder your sleep. Regardless, I think you would have more NREM sleep the next night to help compensate. So your gains shouldn't really be affected at all.
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Nov 13 2014 11:03am
Quote (FrozenWater @ Nov 13 2014 02:18pm)
Studies show that even top level natural bodybuilders achieve negligible increases in sarcoplasmic hypertrophy from anything over 1.7g per kg bodyweight.
Though some experts recommend slightly higher protein during a cut.


For the 2nd Q - the general population only requires 8 hours of sleep to function at optimal capacity. Some people require slightly more, and in rare cases people can get by on 4-6.


very helpful, thanks

Quote (Afficionado @ Nov 13 2014 03:39pm)
I literally just did a whole post about this.. check the thread "flexible dieting"


checking now
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Nov 13 2014 11:05am
Quote (dro94 @ Nov 13 2014 03:15am)
1. How much protein do you go by?

I've heard a gram for every lb, or anything from 1.5-2g for every kg. Atm im getting around 110g daily at 71kg / 157lbs

2. How much sleep is optimal?

I sleep 8-9 hours but sometimes I sleep from 6am-1pm so I'm worried that the quality of sleep is somehow lower and therefore affects my gains. I guess it is different for everyone but any study or info would be cool


Meh, most people consume way tooo much. Generally 1.5g/kg is plenty. Anything upwards of 2g/kg is fine but is negligible.

Sleep just depends on you individually. Your body will adjust to whatever sleep cycle you live with. You will begin entering stages 3/4 quicker if you're only getting 6 hours. If you stay on the same cycle you'll end up getting roughly the same Stage 3/ REM sleep as someone on 8 hours. Just a lot less of stage1/2
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Nov 13 2014 04:07pm
I weigh 230 and go for 300g.. so roughly 1.3g/lb.
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