so basically, i know how to lift and all (some experience, not total noob) but i currently don't have the money or resources to get the optimal results at the gym due to my shitty diet. in other words, i probably don't consume enough calories and definitely do not consume enough protein to be making the strength gains that i would like.

so i would think a routine like starting strength would be too taxing on my body because it has you squatting 3 times a week. is there a strength routine that will help me maintain, maybe also help me make some slow gains

on this routine, i will try to eat as much as possible but i cannot guarantee anything .

would you recommend 5/3/1 for a person in my situation? yes currently, i'm trying to look for employment so i can finally start dieting for the first time in my life.

goals : jump higher, gain strength, and eventually i would like to move on from a strength routine to add in more hypertrophy work

approximate when i was my strongest: 365 lb deadlift, 300 lb squat, 205 lb bench press

please help me out.

This post was edited by iGotThatFiyah on Jul 25 2014 06:39pm

starting strength is fine, diet is cheap dude..

raynor posted an under ~$50 bulking diet/week can't remember how much exactly, but..

oats
eggs
bread
peanut butter
rice
potatoes
ground beef

all cheap stuff

e/ how strong are you now though? most places i've read say that at around your strength is when you get off starting strength, and change programs to madcow's or something else.

This post was edited by turtol on Jul 25 2014 06:57pm

Do you have that topic tracked by any chance?

it's the one at the top of the page... with like 1800 pages LOL it's somewhere in there i think around the ~400 mark don't quote me on that though, could be anywhere in there....

This post was edited by turtol on Jul 25 2014 07:26pm

Post #4402

"Besides buying cytosport Cytogainer to take before and after workouts - I would reccomend the following:

NOW! Adam Men's MULTIVITAMIN

Micronized Creatine (any brand)

HMB (preferably scifit brand but any brand should work)

Arginine/Ornithine (NOW! Brand)

Omega 3-6-9 (NOW BRAND, take with every meal)


those 4 things, you can buy anywhere, but bodybuilding.com is the best. Those products will help you achieve your goals faster than without using anything at all.

The total cost monthly should be around: $45 cytogainer + $10 multi + $10 creatine + $20 HMB + $10 arginine + $10 Omega 3-6-9 = $105 / month.

If you can't afford that I'd reccomend just sticking with the cytogainer and the multivitamin (afterall the cytogainer provides you with 2 meals a day, and the multi is cheap and extremely important)"

E/ at least that's what I was looking for

This post was edited by jimtheflow on Jul 25 2014 07:43pm

ahh that's not what i wanted, i think he wrote like a meal plan for $20/week or under. just food.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&o=4400

Might help

Woa I forgot about peachie

Paleo

you don't get off the program if it is still working. don't just jump to a different program if you hit a number. you wait until you have exhausted that program.