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Jul 13 2014 09:32pm
was minced garlic in a jar

opened for around 48 hours and not refridgerated

safe to eat?

its water, garlic, and phosphoric acid

should be okay cause it doesnt have oil right?

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Jul 13 2014 09:33pm
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Jul 13 2014 09:38pm
grows in 4.6-8.9 pH range

depends if what you have is acidic or not, orange juice is around pH 3 and lemon is around 2, to compare

http://www.foodsafety.unl.edu/pathogens/botulinum.html
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Quote (Qwaze @ Jul 13 2014 11:38pm)
grows in 4.6-8.9 pH range

depends if what you have is acidic or not, orange juice is around pH 3 and lemon is around 2, to compare

http://www.foodsafety.unl.edu/pathogens/botulinum.html


the phosphoric acid should hopefully have dropped the acidity level

but i only had it left out after opened for around 48 hours or so?

wonder how quick it can grow

and im pretty sure it wont grow botulism bacteria for sure, but its just a small chance?


hmmmm ur link shows this
"Garlic in oil mixtures"

mine is in water though

http://m.target.com/p/market-pantry-minced-garlic-8-oz/-/A-13556562



Ingredients:
Garlic, Water, Phosphoric Acid.



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Quote (noob_whacker @ Jul 13 2014 11:45pm)
the phosphoric acid should hopefully have dropped the acidity level

but i only had it left out after opened for around 48 hours or so?

wonder how quick it can grow

and im pretty sure it wont grow botulism bacteria for sure, but its just a small chance?


youre probably ok
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Jul 13 2014 09:54pm
probably fine, but taste might be off a bit, and that's what garlic is used for.

fresh garlic>

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Jul 13 2014 10:24pm
someone just shared this on facebook..


and, botulism..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203656107990467
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Jul 13 2014 11:24pm
^ howtobasic youtube or something

seen them before
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Jul 14 2014 01:19am
Happens in canned foods mainly in anaerobic conditions. Causes the canned goods to inflate implying damage.

If you eat it and have constipation and stomach pains and generalized weakness 2-8 hours later, go to a doc or risk paralysis.

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Quote (ViviLOL @ Jul 14 2014 03:19am)
Happens in canned foods mainly in anaerobic conditions. Causes the canned goods to inflate implying damage.

If you eat it and have constipation and stomach pains and generalized weakness 2-8 hours later, go to a doc or risk paralysis.


This is the main thing
was the food canned/was the lid closed? If not, I'm sure it's not infected with clostridium botulinum

Now, if it was open (lid off) and left out sitting for 48hrs.. I probably wouldn't eat it lol. Idk why you're concerned w/ botulin, there's a slew of other organisms that can/do cause foodborne illness via growing on the foods.. specifically even substances similar to garlic. Idon't think I'd eat it tbh

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Quote (ViviLOL @ Jul 14 2014 03:19am)
Happens in canned foods mainly in anaerobic conditions. Causes the canned goods to inflate implying damage.

If you eat it and have constipation and stomach pains and generalized weakness 2-8 hours later, go to a doc or risk paralysis.


been around 9 hours or so

feel fine

Quote (Balla @ Jul 14 2014 03:32am)
This is the main thing
was the food canned/was the lid closed? If not, I'm sure it's not infected with clostridium botulinum

Now, if it was open (lid off) and left out sitting for 48hrs.. I probably wouldn't eat it lol. Idk why you're concerned w/ botulin, there's a slew of other organisms that can/do cause foodborne illness via growing on the foods.. specifically even substances similar to garlic. Idon't think I'd eat it tbh


it was was minced garlic in a jar

not a can

lid was closed after 1st opening, just wasnt in fridge during first 48 hours or so after opened for 1st time
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