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Jun 14 2014 12:02pm
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/

Basically iifym.

Gets good comments from both layne norton and alan aragon.

Best thing I've ever read ;)
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Jun 14 2014 12:14pm
bodybuilders hate milk

seems legit
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Jun 14 2014 01:02pm
Quote (Darwin @ Jun 14 2014 01:14pm)
bodybuilders hate milk

seems legit


Clearly you didn't read it all. It was just providing examples.
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Jun 14 2014 01:22pm
He gets his point across, and is generally correct.
Pretty oversimplified in some regards though.. and sometimes contradicts himself, such as "No food directly damages your health" followed by claiming that in moderation these foods won't damage your health.. so it's not true at all they won't when consumed in higher levels. Examples, that he even gave, such as fructose and trans fat for instance are exemplary. It's true that health minded lifters and such will probably not consume enough fructose, trans fat, etc to make a difference.. but if you apply this to the average american, they will CERTAINLY consume more than enough of either/both of those to cause deleterious effects, with ease. It's not incredibly hard for people to reach the levels needed to cause adverse LDL/ApoB/TG effects.

One thing I can say though, the adverse health effects from being obese/overweight are much more noxious than consuming even an excess of these "bad" foods; not to mention the wonderful health benefits of lifting itself. Also, I'm simply nitpicking just a little bit, but as a whole, he's right. It's just sometimes, I think oversimplification can cause problems.. especially if someone took away from this it's okay to suck down massive amounts of shit, as it's essentially "unattainable" to reach the levels needed to cause problems. Moderation is key ofc. Apropos the idea that certain foods are literally toxic themselves though, that list is strikingly short, and overstated, so I see why he tries to strike that down.
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Jun 14 2014 04:27pm
^^ so basically stay away from too much transfats though it's hard to get because they take them out of mostly everything,
don't eat massive amounts of sucrose/fructose
Don't eat too much to where you would become obese in general

Other than that just take your multivitamin if your food choices aren't very nutrient dense.

Or if you have one of those diseases, watch out.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Jun 14 2014 04:31pm
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Jun 14 2014 04:47pm
iirc layne is a clean eating advocate too
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Jun 14 2014 04:53pm
so is eating 3 banana a day ok
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Jun 14 2014 04:55pm
Quote (Lightman @ Jun 14 2014 05:47pm)
iirc layne is a clean eating advocate too

Lol why would he like this article then?

Quote (Noun @ Jun 14 2014 05:53pm)
so is eating 3 banana a day ok


Of course..
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Jun 14 2014 04:56pm
what constitutes too much fructose a day? over 100g?
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Quote (tommyd323 @ Jun 15 2014 12:55am)
Lol why would he like this article then?



Of course..


from his own article:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/layne-norton-the-most-effective-cutting-diet.html

"The Following Is A List Of Acceptable Protein, Carbohydrate, & Fat Sources While Dieting" <- ergo other foods are not "clean" enough to be worthy.
he's also a meal frequency and a preworkout shake advocate... overall bleh of a guy
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