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Aug 25 2011 10:59pm
Quote (Deathslaya16 @ Aug 25 2011 11:27pm)
Hey Raynor,

Do you have much personal experience with weight gainers? I've heard people on both sides of the topic of weight gainers, some supporting them while others saying they are trash etc..

I was looking into getting a tub of ISO Mass Extreme Gainer just to try it out...what are your opinions on weight gainers in general, and do you have a recommendation on which ones are the best?


Cytosport Cytogainer is the best in my opinion

Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Gainer is a VERY close second.

Both are outstanding.
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Aug 26 2011 07:52am
Hey man, could you help me with a nice off-season diet?
I just want it now so that I can get back on track asap rather than eating like shit for awhile.
I want a diet like kinda complex but not. Good tasting things. Cottage cheese, spaghetti (beef) meals, wheat toast, PB, sweet potatos... stuff like that.
Around 4-5 meals PLUS 2 shakes.
I'm guessing around 4k-5k calories?
8oz meat each meal.

My breakfast I'm probably gonna do :
1 cup cottage cheese
2 pieces of whole grain toast
1 TBSP Almond Butter?
1 Banana
4-5 egg whites?

This stuff just sounds so good right now since I'm 4 weeks out from my show. :p
Clean bulk OFC.

Thanks a lot! :)

This post was edited by cseitz71690 on Aug 26 2011 07:52am
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Quote (cseitz71690 @ Aug 26 2011 09:52am)
Hey man, could you help me with a nice off-season diet?
I just want it now so that I can get back on track asap rather than eating like shit for awhile.
I want a diet like kinda complex but not. Good tasting things. Cottage cheese, spaghetti (beef) meals, wheat toast, PB, sweet potatos... stuff like that.
Around 4-5 meals PLUS 2 shakes.
I'm guessing around 4k-5k calories?
8oz meat each meal.

My breakfast I'm probably gonna do :
1 cup cottage cheese
2 pieces of whole grain toast
1 TBSP Almond Butter?
1 Banana
4-5 egg whites?

This stuff just sounds so good right now since I'm 4 weeks out from my show. :p
Clean bulk OFC.

Thanks a lot! :)



Hey man...4-5K calories is quite a bit, do you remain fairly lean despite excess calories? Also, what is your current BMR with your usual routine included?

Anyway, if you'd like 4K calories approx, here is a decent meal plan for your purposes:


Meal 1 -

3 whole eggs + 3 egg whites
1/2 cup cottage cheese
2 slices whole grain bread w/ any nut butter + 1 tsp jelly
1 apple/orange/grapefruit/pear/peach/nectarine
2 cups coffee


Meal 2 -

8 oz chicken breast (grilled) w/ 1 tbsp olive oil
1 large salad w/ 1 tbsp olive oil and balasmic, apple cider, or red wine vinegar
1 cup of brown rice or buckwheat
1 apple/orange/grapefruit/pear/peach/nectarine


Meal 3 -

8 oz sirloin steak (90/10 or leaner) w/ 1 tbsp olive oil
1 cup brown rice
1 cup black beans
1 cup chopped green peppers/onions/tomatoes/etc
1 apple/orange/grapefruit/pear/peach/nectarine


Meal 4 -

8 oz chicken breast (grilled/baked/broiled) w/ 1 tbsp olive oil
1-1.5 cups whole grain pasta w/ tomato sauce
1 cup sauteed broccoli w/ 1 tbsp olive oil + lemon


Meal 5 -

2 cans of tuna + 1 tbsp mayo + 2 tbsp mustard (to taste)
1/2 cup chopped onions/celery/carrots (add to tuna)
2 slices whole grain bread
1 slice cheddar cheese
2 slices tomato + 2 slices onion
(melt the whole damn thing together as an epic tuna melt of delicious)



You can re-arrange some of the meals there, given that you are on a bulk and seem to have a high tolerance for excess calories without the excess fat gain that normally occurs.

For the shakes, obviously pre/post workout is probably superior for your purposes.

edit: I almost forgot....PWO banana is best. You don't need to have it any other time of day because of how dense bananas are in sugar.

Furthermore, if you want to substitute sweet potatoes/oats for pasta/rice/buckwheat/whole grain bread - you can do so at your leisure.

This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Aug 26 2011 11:53am
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Aug 26 2011 12:45pm
Quote (zpy15 @ Aug 13 2011 11:02am)
Hey Raynor,

I'm getting sick of just freestyle lifting and decided to make a plan (which I have not tried yet) I'm just wondering on your thoughts, if I should tone it down and what order I should be doing them in.
(Every set is 10-14 reps)

Day 1 Legs/Shoulders
6 sets of BB Squats (1 being a warmup)
4 sets of Leg Extensions
4 sets of Leg Curls
3 sets of Leg Press
4 sets of Standing Military Press
3 sets of Front Raises
3 sets of Lateral Raises
2 sets of Bent-over Rear Delt Raises
4 sets of DB Shrugs
1-2 Drop sets on the sitting calf raise machine

Day 2 Chest/Biceps
Flat Bench Pyramid (10 8 6 4 2 4 6 8 10 10 format) (Temporary 'til I plateau)
4 sets of Incline Dumbell Flys
4 sets of Cable Crossovers
4 sets of Chest Dips
4 sets of Dumbell Pullovers
2 sets of Concentration Curls
2 sets of Hammer Curls
2 sets of Preacher Curls
2 sets of 21's

Day 3 off

Day 4 Back/Triceps
6 sets of Deadlifts (1 being warmup)
3 sets of Lat Pulldowns
3 sets of Pullups
4 sets of Bent-over BB Rows
3 sets of Dips
3 sets of Tricep pushdowns
4 sets of Decline Skullcrushers
2 sets of One-arm Standing Tricep Extensions
2 sets of One-arm Tricep Kickbacks

Thanks^^



Quote (SKCRaynor @ Aug 13 2011 10:12pm)
hmm...the way you are outlining it should actually be fine. It's rare that I see someone attempt that kind of split. Let me know how it works out for you.

I think you will see pretty good results


Thanks, I'm already feeling the results:)
Also my chest/biceps day only lasts about 1hr 15mins, what are sum exercises that I can add to it, to make it longer?
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Aug 26 2011 12:49pm
how long does it take for shin splints too heal. just aching while skipping, not running pain is worse then.
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Aug 26 2011 02:10pm
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Aug 26 2011 03:28pm
hey ray...

I have started to FINALLY after 3 months of hard work notice a six pack!! after a loss of 30 pounds =) hard work paid off. Now i want to make my six pack look a little more hard.. its soft and pudgy right now, should i lower my liquid intake? should i keep taking protein and creatine and continue doing weighted ab exercises? any help would be great, thanks!!
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Aug 26 2011 04:17pm
Quote (lepInTheHood @ Aug 26 2011 02:49pm)
how long does it take for shin splints too heal. just aching while skipping, not running pain is worse then.


it varies by the person and the severity. Usually several weeks.
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Aug 26 2011 04:18pm
Quote (SINVirtue @ Aug 26 2011 05:28pm)
hey ray...

I have started to FINALLY after 3 months of hard work notice a six pack!! after a loss of 30 pounds =) hard work paid off.  Now i want to make my six pack look a little more hard.. its soft and pudgy right now, should i lower my liquid intake? should i keep taking protein and creatine and continue doing weighted ab exercises? any help would be great, thanks!!


Continue as usual, just keep reducing overall bodyfat in order to make the abs really shine
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Aug 26 2011 06:15pm
Just like to stop by and congratz on reaching 1k pages of advice. You have given me a lot of advice and helped me cut a lot of weight :)
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