Man, I've told you more than once that I admire your knowledge, and I'm pretty aware of your being very knowledgeable regarding these issues, but seriously, take it easy. Neither being a library rat makes your right automatically, nor we were speaking about it. And however, and as I told you before, the bar doesn't fucking bounce off the floor when you touch-n-go. I defend doing the contrentric phase of the deadlift, which entails a slow movement until the plates touch the floor once again. SLOW movement.

The only difference between a touch-n-go deadlift and a stop deadlift if you do a slow concrentric phase is that you won't relax your muscles in the former, and you will in the latter. That's all.

You are probably the only person in HnF who has never let my expectations of him down.



An eccentric dedicated exercise, especially deadlift, will never come to the point of bouncing. The motion would be as slow as dropping the bar without causing it to bounce once.
You seem to be extremely vexed of the time you attempted to argue against me, and ever since have told me to calm down on more than several occassions. I am more than calm, my friend, perhaps you are still infuriated on being taught you were wrong.



My friend, I was the first to advocate eccentric based lifts from the beginning. From before you have even created your account: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=51386289

All types of TnG bounce. There are two possible scenarios:

-Either the individual truly performs a slow eccentric motion, in which the bar would never bounce, and due to such the gravitational restoration would force the individual to reform his legs position, causing an inevitable pause of at least 1-2 seconds, which is by default not TnG anymore

-The individual never truly performed the eccentric motion properly. Hence, TnG.

Nobody was arguing about the "bounce" until you made it your objective to let us know your position on it.

Perhaps, my friend, you need to go back to 2nd grade. You know, where comprehension was a big thing.

tbh I go pretty controlled on eccentric portion of my deadlift.
I also do not do TnG ever since I posted a video and Lightman describing the correct form of allowing the bar to die per rep.

doesnt meant you have to drop it, you can place it on the ground in a controlled manner. If you can reset the grip between reps, youre doing it right



its dead when you let it on the ground for a very brief moment



what the hell is gravitational polarity, please use correct terms

about eccentric: its shown that extra eccentric is beneficial for strength gain in some studies, but its usually coupled with severe soreness. However muscle injuries (namely tears) occur almost exclusively in the eccentric phase.

about resetting weight: it depends on the plates and the floor, there is a good deal of bounce in most cases. Resetting the weight is harder and many have noticed. Somewhere ive read about 'elasticity' being stored in the muscles when doing touch n' go, but it sounds sketchy to me.

This post was edited by Ocen on Jul 19 2012 12:33pm

oh i know i try not to make a huge noise at the gym lol, just let it fall but not go crashing down i guess.

I use nothing but correct terms.
The weight descends at eccelerated pace (Drops), once crashed to the ground diverts most of its mass in acension (Upward 'jump'), a physical whiplash caused by negation of the gravitational polarity. A similar phenomenon can be seen while dribbling a basketball.

The muscles are 100% elastic, otherwise could not contract. You are confusing yourself with tendons, which are both very hard (Collagen) and slightly elastic (Elastin).

theres no such term as gravitational polarity, let alone the negation of it. Please stop raping physics.

you dont need to go about trying to explain an elastic collision. Something falls, collides with earth, since energy is conserved (assuming perfectly immobile earth) it goes back up to the height it was dropped from. But this world is not ideal, theres sound, heat, an external force (if eccentric is performed) and elasticity factors related to materials. So in the end it will bounce nowhere near its original height, but there can still be some bounce that assists in getting the next rep.

you sound like youre good in your thing, but please dont try explaining things with fancy terms that dont even exist. Its repulsive.

Well, I can tell you my bar has never bounced on the ground. Most of the times only one of the sides will touch even, if the bar is not completely parallel to the ground, and then there I go, up again. It slightly touches the floor, nothing more.

Oh, and lold @ "I defended eccentrif phase before you created your account" etc. Clearly unaware^^

And as I said, I prefer to do the eccentric phase because I used to train for hypertrophy, and thus I had considered it was best for me to do so.

This post was edited by BoldedGreen on Jul 19 2012 03:24pm

I used to bounce the weight, now I don't. End of story. NAHMEAN!