Quote (impulsepainter @ Thu, Mar 12 2009, 04:54pm)
Curious on your stance of 'caffeine negating any gains from creatine'. Is caffeine enough of a diuretic to effect it? And even if it is, isn't creatine's purpose to help replenish the ATP in your muscles?
Thanks
This is something I've argued with people about in the past.
Three things should never be taken in conjuction with each other:
No2 supps (arginine+ornithine, etc)
Caffeine (or ephedrine)
Creatine (monohydrate, micronized, etc)
Caffeine when you wake up and mid day/pre-workout.
No2 supps after 1 hour of workout, and right before bed
creatine RIGHT AFTER a workout (or once in the morning 30 mins after caffeine and once after workout)
that is the correct order of doing things.
caffeine vasoconscricts which directly challenges no2
caffeine also is a dieuretic which purges water when creatine attempts to hold onto it.
in addition, creatine absorption can hinder no2 absorption (in the form of arginine and other supps) as shown in many studies...try to avoid taking them at the same time.