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#8501
Oct 17 2012 02:55pm
Quote (2OLBAID2 @ Oct 17 2012 02:55pm)
i turn 23 next week , age 22 photos were taken april 2012

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vmsw34.jpg


Some interesting choice of poses lmfao
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#8502
Oct 17 2012 02:58pm
Quote (Soad @ Oct 17 2012 02:41pm)
why

if tear was cycling he would admit it what does he have to hide?


not sure if srs lol
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#8503
Oct 17 2012 02:59pm
Quote (Soad @ Oct 17 2012 02:41pm)
why

if tear was cycling he would admit it what does he have to hide?


Same reason people lie about lifts and do half squats and claim they are full rom.
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#8504
Oct 17 2012 03:02pm
Some pics.
Slightly over 6ft ~182lbs, maybe 6lbs less on these pics.



E: Hint, I don't do any BB, my training focuses 100% on OL.

This post was edited by PlaaD on Oct 17 2012 03:05pm
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#8505
Oct 17 2012 03:06pm
Quote (PlaaD @ 17 Oct 2012 21:02)
Some pics.
Slightly over 6ft ~182lbs, maybe 6lbs less on these pics.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3926/trapsb.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9770/gym1b.jpg

E: Hint, I don't do any BB, my training focuses 100% on OL.


your back looks like my ass crack
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#8506
Oct 17 2012 03:58pm
Quote (Balla @ Oct 17 2012 10:24pm)
The thing is you will keep some gains. Unless you completely fuck up, you're not going to go back down to baseline. These are facts.

I will say IF you are surpassing your genetic potential, after several months you will diminish down to baseline.. that's obvious. But assuming you aren't that point yet, you should keep a lot of your gains. You throw around suppositions as pure fact when examined further they prove to be absurdly fallacious.


When the absolute optimum for the genetically gifted revolves circa 1000 ng/dl of bloodwork testosterone, and an average weekly injection raises that level to 2500-3000 ng/dl, there is no "IF".
You are surpassing the human potential with the most mundane cycle, which the human body cannot possibly mimic, stabilize or maintain without continuous third party aid.

I'll let you have the last word that you are so famously obsessed with, however.
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Oct 17 2012 04:08pm
Quote (Lightman @ 17 Oct 2012 23:58)
When the absolute optimum for the genetically gifted revolves circa 1000 ng/dl of bloodwork testosterone, and an average weekly injection raises that level to 2500-3000 ng/dl, there is no "IF".
You are surpassing the human potential with the most mundane cycle, which the human body cannot possibly mimic, stabilize or maintain without continuous third party aid.

I'll let you have the last word that you are so famously obsessed with, however.


It's pretty obvious he was referring to attaining a physique you couldn't get without roids, regardless of the time invested and effort exerted.

To me, if you have roided but afterwards you look still like a nooby, you have not surpassed your genetic potential. Ther'es the difference. A semantic one, though.
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Oct 17 2012 04:48pm
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It's pretty obvious he was referring to attaining a physique you couldn't get without roids, regardless of the time invested and effort exerted.

To me, if you have roided but afterwards you look still like a nooby, you have not surpassed your genetic potential. Ther'es the difference. A semantic one, though.


The same physical gain would meet a retaliatory hormonal discharge when not proceeded with subsequent cycles, regardless of the attained physique being "Within the range of the norm" or not.
Re-read my previous posts in this chain discussion as reference.

Note the fact that a singular cycle will not have a dramatic (If any) impact in muscular gain, nor will it be maintained.
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#8509
Oct 17 2012 04:52pm
The point of roids [if you aren't at genetic potential] is to speed up progress.

That's why, if you've ever done roids in your life, you can't claim natural (not even if a hundred years have passed).

Even if you stop working out, you've still progressed further along than you would have without roids.

Even if you start working back out and are weaker than you were pre-cycle, you would be even weaker if you never took that cycle.

It's a simple prospect, yet it seems to completely fly over the heads of people who took roids. Stop being so bias, stop turning away from the truth (H&F's most notorious quality, head-in-the-sand).
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Oct 17 2012 04:58pm
Quote (RapDawg @ Oct 17 2012 10:52pm)
The point of roids [if you aren't at genetic potential] is to speed up progress.

That's why, if you've ever done roids in your life, you can't claim natural (not even if a hundred years have passed).

Even if you stop working out, you've still progressed further along than you would have without roids.

Even if you start working back out and are weaker than you were pre-cycle, you would be even weaker if you never took that cycle.

It's a simple prospect, yet it seems to completely fly over the heads of people who took roids. Stop being so bias, stop turning away from the truth (H&F's most notorious quality, head-in-the-sand).


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