Quote (tommyd323 @ May 22 2018 01:00pm)
Holy shit that argument is so old. And has been dismissed in this thread. Cars weren’t designed with the sole fucking purpose of killing.
Cars can’t drive into a school and down the hallways after kids anyway
Gang activity isn’t what sparks the debates because it’s rather uncontrollable and would take much longer to do something about. It’s these mass shootings that spark debate
And to the person driving a car into a crowd idea ^^
Not only is it less effective than a gun, but it’s also more difficult. Guns make killing easy.
Uncontrollable? So, your debate is just, we can't solve that. Which is entirely false. How about we focus on WHY PEOPLE JOIN GANGS.
You're seriously saying that's not preventable? This should be the main focus of this country right now, and why the social economics cause people to join gangs or have diminished values. But, wait, people are too afraid to confront this topic. So we just ignore it.
Driving a car into a crowd is simple. Parades, street events with wood barricades, kids at bus stops at the school.
It's pretty easy. Everybody's driven a car before.
So now you're focused specifically on schools, yet school shootings are typically done by youth, who don't have gun rights, so how does gun control effect this???? Plus what percent of the 17,000 murders were in schools? Less than probably 100. So now you're focused on 0.06% of the national homicides. The reality is, mass shootings are incredibly rare. Think about how many people are in this country?
Guns don't necessarily make it as easy as you claim, what if a law abiding citizen is there with a CCW? He has a better chance of stopping a shooter than he does a car. But I'll stop with the car argument.
Also, there is some skill in using a weapon, plus, having to engage under stress, which severely effects fine motor skills. Which improper handling can cause gun malfunctions, especially with handguns. Not to mention the effects of stress on aim. If you don't hit an individual in a vital organ, they may not die. You act as if people aren't going to be running. It's not as easy as you claim. I've done some of the same qualifying courses as law enforcement officers, in fact, under stress most people don't even line up their sights. All of this, is why police officers have such low accuracies on the field, despite their training.
Plus, schools have liaison officers, who are trained with their weapons, have Kevlar, etc. I doubt a 17 year old has practiced with his weapon for months before committing the shooting. He's probably watched and read some basic information on the internet. That kid killed 10 people in that school (or last time I checked), which is still unfortunate, but there were probably hundreds of kids there.
Everyone complains about guns, but if intruders enter my house, I'll be glad I have mine, at least I have a chance.
You can hide in the closet hoping they dont find you while you wait for 5 minutes for law enforcement to arrive.
Which will feel like an eternity. Sounds like a great plan.
That said, I am all for having good gun registration laws, and having to apply for a permit to purchase.
This post was edited by GLYC123 on May 22 2018 02:46pm