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Mar 6 2012 12:57pm
Quote (zeratul87 @ Mar 6 2012 06:50pm)
so said that even w/ your butt buddy you cannot form a coherent point.

sorry ownage if you think that somehow you have saved your lover, you have not. that statement is as valid now as it has ever been. and i've addressed everything that post had to say. it went something like this: he uses fallacious argument by attacking a stance i never took (relating hgh levels). bbb is not an issue. . . .i'm a biologist. not a bio major. i know it's hard for you since you likely dropped out of highschool, but please try and keep up.

i do feel honored though that you've saved that. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know you've invested so much thought about me.


You wouldn't have mentioned hgh levels if you didn't think it posed a benefit.

Yes GABA has a serious issue, there wouldn't be a fucking niacin bound form if that wasn't the case. GABA by itself does shit poor in tons of studies.

The fact that you are a functioning biologist is scary as fuck to me.
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Mar 6 2012 01:01pm
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You wouldn't have mentioned hgh levels if you didn't think it posed a benefit.

Yes GABA has a serious issue, there wouldn't be a fucking niacin bound form if that wasn't the case. GABA by itself does shit poor in tons of studies.

The fact that you are a functioning biologist is scary as fuck to me.



lol

kid uses misleading conclusions and propaganda to discredit the same strategies used by industry

i'm currently employed by the usda at a my university utilizing a huge specialty crop research grant

we store all seeds, many of which are genetically modified. we are one of 12 such locations that in the case of a global catastrophe, will allow hundreds of years of selective breeding plants to live on. if you think that we can feed the world's population w/ unmodified agriculture, you are mistaken.

yes there are goms that are bad. and yes, there is some odd research projects taking place. but the point of growth is diversity. all avenues should at least be explored. we are finding cancer fighting agents in tiny plants that make up 1x10^6th of the organic matter in rainforests. how would we have ever discovered such an obscure and remote chemical less we expored all possibilities. if the general public is too stupid to do research into what they are putting into their bodies, that's their own perogative. the way i see it stupid people are procreating at an alarming rate, poor food choices is one way to promote population control.

Explains alot really
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Mar 6 2012 01:14pm
Quote (xGeArz @ Mar 6 2012 10:57am)
You wouldn't have mentioned hgh levels if you didn't think it posed a benefit.


ofc it has a benefit. hgh is good at any level. plus as i mentioned earlier, sleeping was better with gaba over 5-htp for me. so yeah beneficial. . . .

Quote (xGeArz @ Mar 6 2012 10:57am)
Yes GABA has a serious issue, there wouldn't be a fucking niacin bound form if that wasn't the case. GABA by itself does shit poor in tons of studies.


lol? yeah becuase a product was never created in order to combat a common misconception amongst consumers. it was invented due to idiots like yourself who think it needs to cross it.

Quote (xGeArz @ Mar 6 2012 10:57am)
The fact that you are a functioning biologist is scary as fuck to me.


that fact that you are using precious oxygen is equally frightening to me.




Quote (Zark @ Mar 6 2012 11:01am)
lol

kid uses misleading conclusions and propaganda to discredit the same strategies used by industry

i'm currently employed by the usda at a my university utilizing a huge specialty crop research grant

we store all seeds, many of which are genetically modified. we are one of 12 such locations that in the case of a global catastrophe, will allow hundreds of years of selective breeding plants to live on. if you think that we can feed the world's population w/ unmodified agriculture, you are mistaken.

yes there are goms that are bad. and yes, there is some odd research projects taking place. but the point of growth is diversity. all avenues should at least be explored. we are finding cancer fighting agents in tiny plants that make up 1x10^6th of the organic matter in rainforests. how would we have ever discovered such an obscure and remote chemical less we expored all possibilities. if the general public is too stupid to do research into what they are putting into their bodies, that's their own perogative. the way i see it stupid people are procreating at an alarming rate, poor food choices is one way to promote population control.

Explains alot really


so you saw that posting up a quote of mine got a rise (executed by ownage), so you do the same. in similar fashion you find no fault worth mentioning. instead you just post it and add "explains alot"(two words btw)". in the hopes that others will perceive it as my ignorance. needless to say, you fail.

and nn to feel threatened by me. since i can't stop your actions, i'll terminate mine. that way you're not threatened, and i wont waste my time.
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Mar 6 2012 01:46pm
Quote (zeratul87 @ Mar 6 2012 07:14pm)
ofc it has a benefit. hgh is good at any level. plus as i mentioned earlier, sleeping was better with gaba over 5-htp for me. so yeah beneficial. . . .



lol? yeah becuase a product was never created in order to combat a common misconception amongst consumers. it was invented due to idiots like yourself who think it needs to cross it.



that fact that you are using precious oxygen is equally frightening to me.






so you saw that posting up a quote of mine got a rise (executed by ownage), so you do the same. in similar fashion you find no fault worth mentioning. instead you just post it and add "explains alot"(two words btw)". in the hopes that others will perceive it as my ignorance.  needless to say, you fail.

and nn to feel threatened by me. since i can't stop your actions, i'll terminate mine. that way you're not threatened, and i wont waste my time.



The additional HGH released from gaba would likely pose NO additional benefit. It would be like throwing 5mcg more into a b12 supplement and saying there's an additional benefit in that 5mcg. No

Yeah, they created niacin bound gaba to appease a "myth" so they could sell more GABA......since gaba has such a HUGEEE fucking market....and even the research conclusions were that Gabas mechanisms possibly aren't as powerful unless it crosses the BBB.

Talk about a logical fallacy, claiming a company did something without any proof....just to have a come back in an argument?

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Mar 6 2012 01:52pm
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Mar 6 2012 01:59pm
What the fuck guys... How much do you spend on supps yearly? Approximately, of course.
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Mar 6 2012 02:02pm
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What the fuck guys... How much do you spend on supps yearly? Approximately, of course.


was kinda wondering ther same thing. morts pic looked like 1k+ alone. and that has to be only 3months supply at best
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Mar 6 2012 02:07pm
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was kinda wondering ther same thing. morts pic looked like 1k+ alone. and that has to be only 3months supply at best


U kidding me? all those vitamins are like $5-$6 a bottle.... 1k lol

That shit is all cheap compared to protein.... Thats the only expensive thing I actually buy...
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Mar 6 2012 02:08pm
Quote (xGeArz @ Mar 6 2012 11:46am)
The additional HGH released from gaba would likely pose NO additional benefit. It would be like throwing 5mcg more into a b12 supplement and saying there's an additional benefit in that 5mcg. No

Yeah, they created niacin bound gaba to appease a "myth" so they could sell more GABA......since gaba has such a HUGEEE fucking market....and even the research conclusions were that Gabas mechanisms possibly aren't as powerful unless it crosses the BBB.

Talk about a logical fallacy, claiming a company did something without any proof....just to have a come back in an argument?

lulz


you've gotten completely off track with all this nitpicking.

i asked another dude why not take gaba

you said it doesn't pass bbb

i provide studies which show that gaba interacts w/ the hypothalamus and therefore the pituitary (driving force of the endocrine system)

then you and your buddies come in arguing about something else entirely.

stay on track. gaba = good. gaba doesn't need to pass the bbb to affect the endocrine system. plain and simple.

this is a thread on supplements. not on who can argue better.
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Mar 6 2012 02:15pm
Quote (MrBobMarley @ Mar 6 2012 02:07pm)
U kidding me? all those vitamins are like $5-$6 a bottle.... 1k lol

That shit is all cheap compared to protein.... Thats the only expensive thing I actually buy...


hmm. iunno then, i dont buy vitamins but hear yall talking about dropping 2-300 per shop all the time. at any rate thats still a fuck ton of money. and im used to the prices of vitamins from a source i know where the average price per bottle is around 25 bucks. so thats how i gauged my number.
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