Yeah I was curious about this.
One of the MD magazines said it I believe.

I think they just meant reverse grip flat bench, not incline.
Seems like you could get more of an "upper-chest" contraction doing it this way?

hey im 19 y/o 5'9 145-150 lbs about 13-15% bf high metabolism i think (can eat a lot of junk food and dont notice any fat gain)

can you make me a meal plan... basically i just need help with the amount of food i should eat each meal.

what i eat is

mince meat sauce + whole wheat pasta
mince meat sauce on whole wheat toast (when im lazy, its an awesome snack :D)\
eggs on whole wheat toast
whey isolate shakes

and thats about it

im pretty lazy and VERY fussy, just cant stand a lot of food. i hate variety, i dont mind eating the same thing over and over.

you mind telling me how much i should eat each meal of these foods? if i NEED to add some other type of food chuck that in there too. i was thinking something along the lines of chicken + potatoes + what ever vegies would be ideal in one meal for my after workout meal?

also i dont eat vegies... duno which ones i should eat too. could you suggest some that i could add in my pasta sauce maybe?

Your scale can NOT accurately measure body fat....only estimate...and it is usually incorrect. Use body fat calipers or the underwater test (some larger gyms and colleges have this).

I would not modify anything until you know for sure.

not so much 30% more, but maybe 30% different areas. Underhanded grip takes a lot of strain off the shoulders, but also works a different angle of the chest. I do not necessarily recommend you use it as a primary grip, however, dabbling in it to see how your body reacts is a good idea....and eventually incorporating it based on the results is key.

that's exactly right...it simply changes the angle at which the chest is hit, and takes some strain off the front delts. It doesn't work it MORE than overhand, but slightly different muscle angles which results in slightly more stress on the upper chest.

Hey there....first of all read these:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345094501
Hardgainer Diet and Exercise Guide


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=335896241
Bulking Diet, workout, and supplement guide


For your current stats, I'd recommend around 3,500-4,000 cals a day for you with at least 300g protein.

Please read up on the above guides and let me know if you need further assistance.

Could you link me to some dietary, supplemental, work outs for purely aesthetics?

How would 17.9% body fat look?

Should there any visible six pack? Just curious.

It says that it can measure bf% to .1% accuracy. Told me to do it same time every day under similar conditions because eating and drinking can slightly change the result. The scale send 1 mA of electricity into the body and measure the resistance, since fat has more resistance than muscle. My belly is starting to accumulate fat, especially the lower region, I can see my chest muscle, but the pec area also has some obvious fat.

I don't mean to question you or anything. But let's say would a 17.9% body fat, 5' 8'', 165 pound man need a cut?

If I posted up pictures of my body from different angles, would it help?

I will definitely find rotator cuff exercises, now you're scaring me lol.

Anyways, so working out the lats would balance out the pecs from bench right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_MzRbZDJ8

Does the exercises in this video look good? You can fast forward to about 0:50

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Feb 13 2011 11:14am

Hi Raynor.

Hitting the gym as of this week.

Actual informations :
6'2"
210lbs
25-30% (i think)

Objectives :
180-185lbs

I' sure that by doing the right work-out while eating right, everything is achievable. Giving myself 6 months to lose the weight (if possible).

Hit me up with a nice program of yours! Was looking for a 2 day workout that i'd do 3 times a week or something like that.
Also, link me the posts where you talk about nutrition.

Let me know what you think! Talk to you later!


This post was edited by factor_z on Feb 13 2011 01:42pm