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Quote (Aube @ Mar 2 2018 04:56pm)
I'm not into internet fitness fad lol I live and breath powerlifting. I work with athletes and talk to other coaches, go to seminars, buy books, powerliftings summits, etc. I've seen pretty garbage conventional Deadlift...what is your point? With equal form you can train the sumo more often and recover faster.

I would agree that training for strength and competition is not exactly the same thing but no one is training for competition year round even in powerlifting.


I'm coming into this argument late and didn't read all the other posts and all I know is that you guys are arguing sumo over traditional, but if you can recover sumo faster doesn't that mean you're not training it as hard...

You can't argue faster recovery and then say that it's still a better training technique.
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I'm coming into this argument late and didn't read all the other posts and all I know is that you guys are arguing sumo over traditional, but if you can recover sumo faster doesn't that mean you're not training it as hard...

You can't argue faster recovery and then say that it's still a better training technique.


well he cant argue recovery is faster because a) we dont actually really understand fatigue processes at this point in time, b) we dont understand much of recovery either c) he has no actual data to support that statement, just anecdote collected by his own training and validated externally by anecdote collected by other individuals

e: but yes according to JTS lame fucking stimulus-adaptation curve shit, a faster recovery would be the result of a poorer stimulus

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Quote (Braxton11 @ Mar 5 2018 08:40am)
I'm coming into this argument late and didn't read all the other posts and all I know is that you guys are arguing sumo over traditional, but if you can recover sumo faster doesn't that mean you're not training it as hard...

You can't argue faster recovery and then say that it's still a better training technique.


Where did I state it was a better training technique? I just said it was valid and useful. I wouldn't entirely replace conventional deadlift by it.

There is to main raison why you recover quickly from it:
1. Less ROM which depends on how far apart your feet are. Closer sumo have prettty much the same ROM
2. Back angle which is affected by hip mobility and starting position. (less lower back strain)


Quote (cloudkicker @ Mar 5 2018 08:50am)
well he cant argue recovery is faster because a) we dont actually really understand fatigue processes at this point in time, b) we dont understand much of recovery either c) he has no actual data to support that statement, just anecdote collected by his own training and validated externally by anecdote collected by other individuals

e: but yes according to JTS lame fucking stimulus-adaptation curve shit, a faster recovery would be the result of a poorer stimulus


No necessarily a poorer stimulus but your lower back can take some time to recover and it's harder to train deadlift on a fatigued lower back and still be safe.
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31b raw. Still need to work on form a bit with lower weight, but I wanted to see if I could get 315 without straps.



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31b raw. Still need to work on form a bit with lower weight, but I wanted to see if I could get 315 without straps.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqTNQfMBCbc



Nice, you looo nervous though

Like timid, scared of snap city perhaps?

This post was edited by Excusemem8 on Mar 7 2018 10:45am
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Quote (Excusemem8 @ 7 Mar 2018 09:45)
Nice, you looo nervous though

Like timid, scared of snap city perhaps?


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Quote (Mastersam93 @ Mar 7 2018 09:24am)
31b raw. Still need to work on form a bit with lower weight, but I wanted to see if I could get 315 without straps.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqTNQfMBCbc


youre still looking up and hyperextending your neck. you still arent bracing, youre still flexing and extending in the lumbar spine, youre still not low enough in the hips for your current level of hip flexion range, youre still deadlifting improperly
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