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Quote (Aube @ Feb 28 2018 09:07am)
2.2 x 142.5 kg/314 lbs bench :rofl:

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not that its a small amount of weight for what it is but powerlifting bench doesnt count, just like sumo dl doesnt count
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not that its a small amount of weight for what it is but powerlifting bench doesnt count, just like sumo dl doesnt count


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Yes of course!


such a small range of motion. i get that it counts for PL competition but really? whats the point
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such a small range of motion. i get that it counts for PL competition but really? whats the point


3/10 attempt

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Quote (cloudkicker @ Feb 28 2018 10:33pm)
not that its a small amount of weight for what it is but powerlifting bench doesnt count, just like sumo dl doesnt count


I’m sorry your parents don’t love you man.
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3/10 attempt


not even an attempt. whats the point of training such full-bodied, compound movements if the competition allows you to get away with 1/2 the ROM? youre doing far less work per rep. sure the fact that you can move huge loads at all is cool but express that strength in a full range and ill be more impressed. it shouldnt be a contest of levers.

yall just training to be that old guy that does 25 quarter rep dips at the gym

you know what's actually impressive? the 77kg oly weightlifter that squats 280kg ass to calves with ease.

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not even an attempt. whats the point of training such full-bodied, compound movements if the competition allows you to get away with 1/2 the ROM? youre doing far less work per rep. sure the fact that you can move huge loads at all is cool but express that strength in a full range and ill be more impressed. it shouldnt be a contest of levers.

yall just training to be that old guy that does 25 quarter rep dips at the gym

you know what's actually impressive? the 77kg oly weightlifter that squats 280kg ass to calves with ease.



It’s biomechanics, there is literally no reason why conventional or sumo would be inherently easier, the difference in ROM is so inconsequential... Some people find it easier to pull sumo, some people find it easier to pull conventional.

It’s not a quarter rep, if it was than literally everybody that competes would pull sumo.. I have friends that pull 815 conventional, but can’t pull sumo to save their lives.

It’s like arguing high bar vs low bar.. There’s reasons to both, and neither are meet oriented.

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It’s biomechanics, there is literally no reason why conventional or sumo would be inherently easier, the difference in ROM is so inconsequential... Some people find it easier to pull sumo, some people find it easier to pull conventional.

It’s not a quarter rep, if it was than literally everybody that competes would pull sumo.. I have friends that pull 815 conventional, but can’t pull sumo to save their lives.

It’s like arguing high bar vs low bar.. There’s reasons to both, and neither are meet oriented.


no, high bar and low bar just put different constraints on how much knee flexion is required to attain end range hip flexion. they both result in peak hip flexion, its just that the low bar squat puts your knee in a more intermediate range, where peak force of the quads is greatest (length-force relationship of muscle). low bar is absolutely meet oriented, you want to put yourself in the absolute best position to move the most weight over what is deemed to be a full bar path (femur angle, lol) which inevitably ends up being short in the low bar position compared to a normal squat.

sumo puts you MUCH closer to the ground so that firstly, your barbell path is maybe 1/3 to 1/2 the length of a conventional deadlift. secondly, knee flexion range is greatly reduced compared to conventional (again, no need to go through those end range weak zones if you are flexible enough to stop at 90 degrees or greater). peak hip extension is perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 the range in the sumo dl. its literally just a matter of optimizing lever arms to get a greater number result rather than actually being stronger (obviously you can additionally get stronger to produce a better number). powerlifting has bastardized all three major compounds into biomechanical freak shows of movements.

This post was edited by cloudkicker on Mar 1 2018 08:12am
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no, high bar and low bar just put different constraints on how much knee flexion is required to attain end range hip flexion. they both result in peak hip flexion, its just that the low bar squat puts your knee in a more intermediate range, where peak force of the quads is greatest (length-force relationship of muscle). low bar is absolutely meet oriented, you want to put yourself in the absolute best position to move the most weight over what is deemed to be a full bar path (femur angle, lol) which inevitably ends up being short in the low bar position compared to a normal squat.

sumo puts you MUCH closer to the ground so that firstly, your barbell path is maybe 1/3 to 1/2 the length of a conventional deadlift. secondly, knee flexion range is greatly reduced compared to conventional (again, no need to go through those end range weak zones if you are flexible enough to stop at 90 degrees or greater). peak hip extension is perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 the range in the sumo dl. its literally just a matter of optimizing lever arms to get a greater number result rather than actually being stronger (obviously you can additionally get stronger to produce a better number). powerlifting has bastardized all three major compounds into biomechanical freak shows of movements.


I am starting to think a sumo deadlift did something to you or someone you love.
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High bar master race reporting in, new pr finally





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