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Jan 7 2011 01:03am
Quote (EverNineAfter @ Jan 6 2011 11:47pm)
hey so i have some more questions.

Current diet :
Breakfast - 3/4 cup oatmeal, 3 scrambled eggs, ice water (drink ice water to raise your metabolism)
Meal 2 - 1 can of tuna fish made w/ veggies + mustard/mayo + 1 slice whole grain bread (or half a baked potato or 3/4 cup cooked brown rice)
Meal 3 - Salad with grilled chicken (use 100% extra virgin olive oil and vinegar as the dressing, all veggies and chicken, no croutons or any carb)
Meal 4 - 3 hard boiled eggs + 2 oz cheese + veggies or salad
Meal 5 - 40 gram Protein shake
Meal 6 - 1 cup 2% cottage cheese with mixed nuts and cinnamon

Questions :

could you give me a more specific and detailed diet, i plan to do cardio everday except sundays, and do weight lifting 3 x a week.

so could you give me a diet customized around that, so that im properly fueled after cardio and working out ? and specific things , like some staple examples of what kinds of veggies i could eat at meal times.

- its been brought to my attention that the protein % is quite low, is that true? if so should i incorporate whey protein powder with the other meals as well?

- ive had this pain in my left forearm for a few days now, its the pain that you get when you've bruised a part on your body, but their is no bruise mark. Also it only hurts when i press on it in a certain way do you have any idea what it could be ? it feels like its right under the bone when i press on it.

- i have a water bottle thats 20 oz / 600ml's when its full. is it bad if i drink all of it (20oz) of water in one sitting ? or how much should i be drinking a day, especially after cardio + working out ? in ounces though. and how much is to much to drink at 1 time??

- are juices bad to drink when cutting? i love juice so its something i look forward too D=

- also, whats an example substitute protein shake to use for a meal? could you name the things you put in it ?

- also regarding the diet, i want to cut/ lose weight but i would also like a low % bf , maybe around 8-10 so i get them veins and muscles toned as fuck ! but retain the muscle !

- (no keto diet though!~)

- thanks ! (also in my posts sorry if im repetitive about the questions.




I will allow you to customize your diet around your goals.

1. First 3 meals have carbs and post-workout shake has carbs, after that, NO CARBS.
2. Total calories a day should not exceed your BMR or be under your BMR - you want it right there within 100 cal. (calculate BMR online)

Here is how you will work it:

Meal 1 - 30g lean protein, 30g complex carbs, 10g fats, 1 serving of fruit
Meal 2 - 30g lean protein, 30g complex carbs, 10g fats, 1 serving fruit
Meal 3 - 30g lean protein, 30g complex carbs, 10g fats
PWO shake - 100% whey protein isolate and 25g simple sugars (grape juice is fine)
Meal 4 - 30g lean protein, 10g fats, 1 large serving green veggies
Meal 5 - 30g lean protein, 10g fats, 1 large serving green veggies
Meal 6 - 1 casein protein shake (30g) or 1 cup cottage cheese w/ almonds and cinnamon


lean proteins include - chicken, turkey, tuna, other fish, lean beef, pork loin, lean ham, eggs (these are also a fat!)
fats include - eggs (these are also a protein), peanut butter, nuts, olive oil, vegetable oil, avocados, fish oil, etc.
complex carbs include - whole grains, oats, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes (prefer these over regular potatoes), granola, etc.

left forearm pain sounds like DOMS - just give it a few days of rest.

you need to be drinking at LEAST one gal of water per day...that's 128 oz. You can drink as much as you want in one sitting, but I'd say keep it around 24 oz max.

juice counts as a fruit when cutting...plan accordingly.

lastly....protein shakes =

NOW! 100% whey isolate + water. As a meal replacement, add fruit and peanut butter and some milk or greek yogurt.
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Jan 7 2011 01:13am
Quote (RoflMuch @ Jan 7 2011 12:13am)
Hey SKCRaynor, i'm 16 5'7 153lbish @ about 15-18%BF
I would like to reach somewhere around 12% BF without having to sacrifice muscle or muscle gains if possible
This is my current typical diet for cutting

Oatmeal + 2 Eggs + Coffee
3-4 Chicken Breasts + 1 apple
1 Scoop Myofusion with water after school + 1 slice cheese
1 Scoop Myofusion with water PWO
Chicken/Fish/Meat Dinner with broccoli/spinach/lettuce/ or some other green
1 scoop Myofusion with milk right before sleep
Multi + Fish Oil

I do HIIT as cardio about 3-4 times a week

P.S. I am trying to reduce carbs as much as possible to just Oatmeal and protein/milk to lose fat in the fastest way possible, but I am not sure if it is the best way to maintain muscle / muscle gains

I feel as if I am relying too much on Myofusion and i'm lacking in fat?
I'm eating the cheese to get my source of fat, but I read that there is too much of saturated fat.

Please make major changes to my diet as necessary :)

Thank you Raynor


Hey there.

I can NOT stress this enough....if you are wanting to cut and MAINTAIN as much muscle as possible...you need to be on the anabolic cutting diet and cutting workout routine.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466
anabolic cutting diet

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine
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Jan 7 2011 01:19am
Quote (TheOak @ Jan 7 2011 12:47am)
Hey bro

figured since time is flying by id start learning more about the keto diet that im going on in march (for the teen bb comp in june)

1st off, assuming i would do the CKD (cycling keto diet) it seems to be the most popular. But i also read that THE TKD (targeted keto diet) is better for intesive training?
which one shld i be doing?

also so far its been kinda rough getting a grasp on this diet. Assuming ill weigh 200lbs in the start of this diet here is what i got for my ratios for CKD

Daily intake
200grams protein (800 cal)
50grams carbs (200 cal)
111grams fats (999 calories)
Total of 2000 calories a day

PWO shake is 30grams whey and 30grams of juice


Carb loading - 36 hour process?
200grams protein
2000-2400 grams of carbs
<90 grams fat

and i thought i was to do carb up days every week (i.e. every friday night to sat night)

but i was looking over the examples u were giving and you had a different cycle of

13 days
6 days
13 days
etc....

jst looking for ur opinion/advice

Thank you



Hey man...

okay well let me address each issue.

First of all, CKD VS TKD - it depends on the body. I personally have found that CKD works much better for rapid fat losses. TKD works better for natural mesomorphs - so it's not for the everyman.

Secondly...YES you do get a carb up every week...however, I like to alternate it as ONE carb up week, followed by a full CHEAT week. This I have found works equally as well but also enables you to enjoy certain things you normally could not.


Here is the basis of my anabolic cutting cycle which is my version of CKD.


13 days of no carbs to ACHIEVE proper keto from a regular diet.
14th day - aggressive carb loading for 24 hours (approx 600g carbs + 150g protein + 20-30g fat)
then another 6 days of KETO
followed by 1 cheat day (keep calories to about 3,000 but eat whatever you want...but at least 400g carbs)
then another 6 days of KETO
followed by 1 CARB LOADING DAY (just as before.


if you want to remove the cheat days and just keep it to carb loading you can...you will achieve a SLIGHTLY faster set of results - but marginally.


On keto days, the diet should be:

Protein (1g per pound of LEAN body weight...meaning take bf% and subtract from ur body weight...example 200 lbs @ 20% would be 40 lbs off so 160 lbs = 160g protein)
Fats (MUST make up at least 60% of your total daily calories)
Carbs (keep to 25g or LESS per day!!! and all from green veggies + peanut butter/nuts)

increase water intake on keto and reduce sodium intake to 2g / day or less.

make sure to eat lots of raw green veggies to keep your fiber intake high.


any other questions let me know

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Jan 7 2011 04:44am
Hey Raynor,

How often is it good to go in the Sauna per week? Does it make a difference whether I eat or not before I go?

Thanks!
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Jan 7 2011 10:18am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Jan 6 2011 09:49pm)
Hey there.

Please don't get discouraged with yourself.

You must understand, that it takes a very long time to make solid progress. Usually it takes at least a year before you start to see a transformation (NATURALLY).

Your lifts have gone up considerably in a short time. In addition your arms are noticeably larger, and traps are definitely growing.

I see a SMALL bit on gyno in the chest - are you taking anti-estrogens and a good PH? If not, you might want to look into that. I would recommend doing a lot of research and coming back to me after you do that. I unfortunately can not recommend you a good anti-estrogen and/or PH anymore because of liability issues that were recently presented to me.

However I can point you in the right direction and tell you that a lot can be found on the forum anabolicminds. They openly talk about things of this nature and there are a few knowledgeable individuals you might meet there as well.

Lastly, I would recommend increasing your total caloric load (CLEANLY) about 500 cal per day divided into equal distribution of protein/carbs/fat as previously prescribed.

Moreover, are you on creatine? if so, when/how do you take it?


overall good progress, keep it up and by sept of 2011 you will be noticeably bigger and stronger.


Just started on Creatine Monday , 5 G / day with grape juice

This post was edited by dirTyMan on Jan 7 2011 10:34am
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Jan 7 2011 12:23pm
I have been taking 30 mins before bed the following :

1x metalonin
3x zma
4x bcaa
4x glutamine
3x argnine/ornithine
1x vitamin C

Should I take metalonin and zma 30 mins before bed and bcaa, glutamine, argninine, vitamin C with my pre-bed meal

or

everything together 30 mins before bed is good ?

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Jan 7 2011 12:44pm
Quote (Darkblue @ Jan 7 2011 06:44am)
Hey Raynor,

How often is it good to go in the Sauna per week? Does it make a difference whether I eat or not before I go?

Thanks!



You can go as much as you want as long as you stay hydrated properly and don't stay in for too long. 15-30 minutes maximum at a time.

eating before or after doesn't matter...it's the hydration that matters
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Jan 7 2011 12:45pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Jan 7 2011 12:18pm)
Just started on Creatine Monday , 5 G / day with grape juice


ah I see.

well the creatine will make a huge difference, keep it up and do NOT forget the loading cycle.
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Jan 7 2011 12:47pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ 7 Jan 2011 00:44)
Hey there. I actually just posted these for the guy above you.

Here is the anabolic cutting diet along with the proper cutting workout routine. It is standard cyclical keto with a few adjustments.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466
anabolic cutting diet


Let me know if you have any questions after reading those.


also the sample food plan you posted is perfect.


I've read those 2 posts along with any other post you've linked people to for the past little bit, is why my questions were a bit more narrower and not as broad.
Basically instead of the huge paragraph, my questions would be:
1. Is Sunday being an all cardio day better then having it as a rest day for both body and mind?
3. Need a list of all supplements for cutting (wasn't in either of the two links you linked me and I cannot seem to find it previously posted).
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Jan 7 2011 12:47pm
Quote (serennia @ Jan 7 2011 02:23pm)
I have been taking 30 mins before bed the following :

1x metalonin
3x zma
4x bcaa
4x glutamine
3x argnine/ornithine
1x vitamin C

Should I take metalonin and zma 30 mins before bed and bcaa, glutamine, argninine, vitamin C with my pre-bed meal

or

everything together 30 mins before bed is good ?



Take the vitamin C with the pre-bed meal (approx 30-60 minutes before bed)

Everything else should be immediately before bed

Good sleep stack, but it lacks GABA (1x capsule before bed) and DOPA MUCUNA (1-2 caps before bed)

Those will help increase your GH levels.
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