Quote (Wretch @ Aug 17 2015 01:13pm)

i understand your point, but i don't see much room for speculation on the matter. it's very black and white. i'm not a vegan, and have no agenda to promote. i just have a very hard time turning a blind eye toward hard facts and scientific research.

nobody, in this thread or in any of the videos posted, even came close to suggesting diet as a cure for cancer. this is a very bad misunderstanding on your part and is kind of outrageous. it'd be like suggesting to somebody who has lung cancer to stay away from cigarette smoke to be cured. it's more about the individual using the facts available to them to push the odds in their favor, even in the slightest way.

my uncle who's been a smoker for 60 years and has a heaping plate of spicy italian sausage every Sunday night is approaching 80 and is still kicking, and i bet you know somebody who's like that too, so your "humans have survived" argument is totally arbitrary

it's a real shame that a group of people who post in a subforum that's about living healthy will deliberately misunderstand simple information and twist words around to suit their irrational neuroses.

/e I JUST WANNA SEE PETE MAKE IT THRU THIS :(

Quote (GSG @ Aug 17 2015 03:38pm)

There really isnt much to respond to your post beyond 'I disagree'. I dont really get what you want me to say. You didnt post any research or anything that could be debated, hell you didnt even state if you are pro-veganism or against it. I assume from the tone of your post, you are pro-veganism.

That being said, if you'd like to post some research articles proving that veganism is indeed the best diet I'd be more than interested to read them.

Edit:

I'd implore you to read this article: http://authoritynutrition.com/top-11-biggest-lies-about-vegan-diets/

I think a balanced omnivore diet can be healthy. Most of the studies that I've seen compare Vegans to "average" people. Personally I'd say I eat a "healthier" diet than the average person, and therefore none of these studies apply. If you're comparing someone who rarely gets the correct intake of fruits and vegetables, eats processed sugars, doesnt exercise regularly etc. They are obviously going to be 'sicker' and less healthy than someone who consumes a vegan style diet.

Then there are the articles that have people begin eating a vegan or vegetarian style diet. But most of these research papers also have the people begin exercising, quit smoking, etc. All things that can drastically change the health of a person.

Anyways, read the article, post back with why I'm wrong and post some sources. The article I posted has links to research papers done by medical institutions.

Ty men

Quote (cloudkicker @ Aug 18 2015 01:02am)

can i clear up the misunderstanding here that he never really got rid of his cancer in the first place. they did CT's and found masses in his chest (cancerous lymph tissue) initially but because they didnt change size upon followup CT's later, the doctors just assumed they were normally like that and didnt investigate further. he has had cancer this entire time, there was no recurrence he just never got rid of it in the first place. they cut off his testicle but missed the masses in his chest. this thread shouldnt be called furious pete cancer again, it should be called furious pete, cancer still. that idiot vegan has no idea what hes talking about and should honestly probably be thrown in an asylum for those videos

Quote (noob_whacker @ Aug 18 2015 09:24am)

why would doctors really even take that chance and not investigate further?

if i were the patient with something so serious i would insist upon further testing to be sure it was gone

Quote (Tear @ Aug 17 2015 03:52pm)

of course he was in italy, it was to compete for the guiness book of records and he was flown there by sponsors (professional eating was his main source of income)
nothing was out of his pocket as it was all paid for.

yet the vet bills he posted were indeed real and were paid for by the donations of people who helped.

derp

Quote (GSG @ Aug 18 2015 12:38pm)

I highly doubt his sponsored paid for his GF to be flown over there, as well as paid for him to stay in Italy for 2 weeks touring around. Regardless of that, he was just shady as fuck about it. He got the money from the fundraiser, the surgery was LESS than what he received and he said he would donate it. It took him a year and people getting upset about him not donating the money for him to go and do it. Just saying he seems shady as fuck. It's whatever, I dont like his videos and I dont watch them for that reason.

Like I said though, it's sad he got cancer again. Despite my own views on him nobody deserves that.

Quote (noob_whacker @ Aug 18 2015 08:35pm)

to those of u advocating a diet change, dont seem to have happened, new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tVQiAEwOO8