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Mar 10 2015 06:35pm
Quote (CMBurns @ Mar 10 2015 03:01pm)
Well I can't speak for others because for some it could be shallow reasons and for others not at all.

In my case, it's about being the best I can be. I wanted to see how far I could go. If you do some research and don't waste too much time on biased papers, you'll see that steroids (like any other drug) can be beneficial if taken in proper doses. It has helped sick and wounded people for many years. The real issue is abuse or lack of knowledge when taking it. The only side effects I was affected by were the lack of energy post cycle, a mild testicular shrinkage during the cycle and the amplified mood during the cycle. By amplified mood I mean it amps up whatever personality you have originally. I typically have a short temper, so on roids I could get upset at fairly meaningless things. If you're a calm person to begin with, you won't really see a difference. If you're aggressive, you'll be even more aggressive, etc.

A bad post-cycle treatment or a heavy abuse of doses is what gets you all those pictures online. Flat out idiots with bad hygiene and half a brain thinking MOAR IS GEWD DAWG. They take double/triple doses of various steroids from shady laboratories for years on end and the public blames steroids when they get bitch tits, insane acne scars and kill their families.

If I take a truckload of sleeping pills, I'll die. Yet that's legal. Frankly, people see steroids as a bad thing because it gives a flat out competitive edge, so you'd essentially be forced to take them to compete and that's never a good thing. Even with steroids being illegal, people will go to great lengths to be at the top and that means abuse. In my opinion, steroids for recreational, personal use is absolutely fine. So long as you know what the fuck you're doing and understand that the more you take, the greater the risks.


Definitely some good points here. Appreciate the info. I'm not sold on the fact that taken responsibly, there are no adverse long term side effects. I'd have to do more research. While your personal experience is valuable, it doesn't mean that's how it will be for everyone.

Though I do think people are mad because of the needed to be competitive issue, I think people are more upset that people are willing to risk damaging themselves to get swole which they see as a selfish/shallow goal.

This post was edited by LightmanWannabe on Mar 10 2015 06:36pm
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Mar 10 2015 06:39pm
I wasn't just talking about my personal experience for long term side effects of safe dosage. I try not to build uninformed opinions in general. Before I ever considered taking steroids I did a lot of research and talked to a local sports doctor. I got a lot of great information.
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Mar 10 2015 09:27pm
Quote (Wretch @ 8 Mar 2015 15:44)
just my opinion. zero respect for roid users.


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Mar 10 2015 09:48pm
Gymnastics as a young kid
Start lifting at 14-15
Roids after my growth spurt at 19

Win
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Mar 10 2015 10:29pm
Quote (bjones9 @ Mar 11 2015 12:48pm)
Gymnastics as a young kid
Start lifting at 14-15
Roids after my growth spurt at 19

Win


Let me fix that for u

Gymnastics as a young kid

Bullied throughout junior school because you chose gymnastics

Turn emo at 14-15

Be a shredded emo

Roids and suicide poems at 18
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Mar 11 2015 05:16am
start lifting during puberty when hormones are going wild
read
meditate
get off the damn computer you fat phuck
don't get in serious long term relationships until you're older
pick a hard major in college and stick with it
never drink and drive (so srs)
if you feel the need to cheat on a girlfriend, end it first

i know most aren't fitness related, but they all improve mental HEALTH
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Mar 11 2015 11:42am
Take care of the lifts. the sleazy whores will take care of themselves.
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Mar 11 2015 12:11pm
Quote (CMBurns @ Mar 8 2015 07:30pm)
Choose bodybuilding, not strongman.
Do roids. Start early.


Your first point, pretty relevant to what I'd tell my self.

past 2-3 years, all i really cared about was getting strong and enjoying myself in the gym. As a result I got the knowledge and decent amount of strength, but my shoulders and arms looked like complete shit. Here I am, hitting the gym ~4 days a week for years, and sure I could deadlift 550 lb, but I looked very average given the amount of time in the gym. With Bench, DL, squat. You don't hit arms/shoulders nearly enough to build size.

Been doing some hypertrophy upper body past 3 months, been GOAT
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Mar 23 2015 06:58am
Quote (MrBobMarley @ Mar 11 2015 06:11pm)
Your first point, pretty relevant to what I'd tell my self.

past 2-3 years, all i really cared about was getting strong and enjoying myself in the gym. As a result I got the knowledge and decent amount of strength, but my shoulders and arms looked like complete shit. Here I am, hitting the gym ~4 days a week for years, and sure I could deadlift 550 lb, but I looked very average given the amount of time in the gym. With Bench, DL, squat. You don't hit arms/shoulders nearly enough to build size.

Been doing some hypertrophy upper body past 3 months, been GOAT


proud of u mate
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Mar 23 2015 04:56pm
stay an active gym goer and maintain muscle elasticity.

If I had done that, I wouldn't have torn the shit out of my hamstring last year.

Most advise I would give a younger self wouldn't be gym related. It would be life and financial decision related.

This post was edited by rlebar on Mar 23 2015 04:56pm
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