Ok lets bury this once and for all.

I answer questions based on the priority and necessity of the person I am answering them for. if a person wants to ask me about long-term wellness or cardiovascular fitness or even flexibility and aerobics, I always oblige them. Do you realize how much time JSP takes up for me? I am a full-time medical school student. I also work full time. I simply do NOT have the time to make a 10 page custom plan for everyone.

When you say that I don't focus on wellness or fitness you are seriously trolling me. If someone came to me and asked for that specific help, I would give them assistance with that. But when people (90% or so) come to me asking how to lean out and become more muscular, there are basics that they need to understand and follow before I start getting into advanced practices. In this whole sticky, there might have been 20-30 posts having to do with "ADVANCED" help. The rest are people who just need to nail down the basics first.

So again, you coming in here and trying to undermine me and also tell me what I know and what I don't is a terrible insult to everything I do on here despite an excessively busy schedule in real life. If you think you can do a better job and/or are more qualified than me...do yourself a favor and go make your own thread, post your own qualifications, and start answering questions until someone stickies your thread. But, chances are this will not happen for good reason.

I am not here to defend myself against constant attacks, criticisms, e-thugs, and people who think they know better. If you think you know better, you probably shouldn't be in this thread in the first place. Afterall, this thread is for ADVICE and HELP only...not to share why you think my methods are wrong, or why you think I don't do something enough etc.


Oh and p.s.....If you say sliced deli turkey isn't a whole food, you are fucking braindead.

When you go to the deli, there are refrigerated turkeys that have been cured (added with sugar/salt/spices/etc) that are just WHOLE FOOD TURKEYS...which are placed on a meat slicer, and sliced for easy of making sandwiches. If you think a roasted turkey is a better choice and constitutes more of a whole food than a sliced turkey, you are sadly mistaken and misinformed. Sure, the deli turkey has more sodium (unless you get the low sodium variety), but they are BOTH equally whole foods.



I don't need any more of this....if you want to take my place, go make your own thread, and get out of this one.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031

Abs Workout Routine

Hey there. Not really - and this is mostly because whole-wheat bread is not whole-grain. Also the turkey probably has too high of a sodium content.

However, here are some good choices for school:


(if bringing your own lunch)

2 slices WHOLE GRAIN bread with tuna salad (mix 1 can tuna + mayo/mustard + veggies) w/ 2% cheese and more veggies w/ sweet potato chips or similar.

Large salad with sliced or chunked chicken + various veggies + whole grain crackers (like triscuits)

1 cup black beans + 6 oz chicken breast (chopped) + green peppers/onions (all mixed together) + 1 large serving of fruit and/or veggies.


(if buying lunch there)

Salad w/ chicken or Tuna + side order of potato

2x grilled chicken sandwiches (throw out the buns) + 1 side of veggies + 1 potato or brown rice (if they have this) or pasta (if they have this)

1/4 lb hamburger/cheeseburger (throw out the bun) + 1 side veggies + 1 potato or brown rice (if they have this) or pasta (if they have this)



I can give you a better example if you shared with me the food choices I'm working with. Right now I'm just blind firing and have no idea as to the menu at your school and/or what you can bring.

hope this helps for now!

80% of it is filled with fillers. You think his campus is giving him LEGIT deli meat?

I'm not here to argue with you but you seem to like to debate.

The filler used is commonly maltodextrin, dextrose, or corn syrup solids, all made from manipulating the starch contained in corn.

Enjoy your sugars and corn fillers.


He isn't trolling, he is just arguing a different side and opinion to health and fitness. You are not GOD bro. You are smart and knowledgable, but hardly a fitness/wellness GOD.

This post was edited by Nozguleth on Nov 19 2010 11:50am

Thank you for supporting me. It never ceases to amaze me how much people like to try and correct others for the sake of e-egos. I have done so much on JSP despite tremendous setbacks and very little time to myself and so forth - yet people still come in here and try to give me a hard time.

I appreciate you and others supporting me when these people try to troll and waste time and effort in this thread =)

You made a broadsided assumption. How do you know his campus doesn't use boars head natural sliced turkey? My campus does.

How do you know his deli turkey is processed with 80% filler? Are you there to analyze it?

My point is that you and others make a lot of broad generalizations without knowing. You have to guide someone properly and allow them to make the decision for themselves based on the facts. Right now all you are doing is making broadsided remarks which are only half-true.

His school might have 100% legit turkeys being sliced at a deli counter (depending on what school he goes to). The proper method would have been to ask. My major concern was the bread, because virtually no place carries a TRUE whole grain bread (price, freshness concerns, flavor, etc. all govern this particular item)

Using broad(Generalized) numbers, and offering alternative advice. I'll gladly continue to argue BUT that is just wasting time. You give good advice, you could give better if you ask me.

MOST deli meats are filled with sugar/corn/starch ect...ect..ect... Based on my experiance(an i always ask cause im a prick like that) most food service is JUNK. BUT, you are right, not all. There are a few reputable companies and schools. BUT the vast majority will serve what is CHEAP and economical.


Ofc, my target is a BROAD audience. We are on JSP bro. And you give "unhealthy" advice without "knowing".

E:
Anyway keep up the hard work man. Great to see dedication like this. I would recommend that you read into wellness, organic foods and whole foods a bit more. I think you would really like what it has to offer in terms of fitness and health.

Also, I don't think you give BAD advice, i just think there is plenty of room for improvement.(Mine too, i've learned a lot from jsp in just 1 months time)

This post was edited by Nozguleth on Nov 19 2010 12:00pm

Hey there...I actually have trained a few people who play football right now at UM.

First of all, what is your height and weight right now?


Secondly...your calories start off around 5,000 (slightly less) - but this is not a problem at all especially if you are trying to bulk and will be doing frequent training for football which includes a lot of calorie depleting exercises.


Reducing your overall diet to 400/400/60 is okay, however I'd like to see a bit more fat...maybe 80g total instead of 60. Remember your body needs good fats to function properly and produce more testosterone among other things.


The cutting process you mentioned is find, but you may or may not have to do that based on your own body's necessity. After all, you might even start leaning out more with the 5,000 cal diet you're starting with...so I would only start to cut back calories if you notice a gain of fat despite intense football training and so forth. Also make sure to keep your simple sugars relatively low (20-30g at breakfast and 30-40g post workout or training...that's it.)

As far as the actual diet goes, I'm sure you have a good enough hold on that to make the proper diet choices. Just make sure to also get enough sodium/potassium/magnesium/calcium throughout the day. For you being constantly under stress and sweating like a pig, you will want approx 3,000mg sodium, 6000mg potassium, 3,000 mg magnesium, and 3,0000 mg calcium.

Also make sure to keep your supplementation up...especially multivits, vit C, vit D, and creatine.


As far as the training program goes, I'd be glad to make you one...however doesn't your football team have their own routine that they mandate the players to use?

you eat 10 minutes before you eat??

I'm a bit confused here...did you typo?

For a beginner lifter with a ectomorph body type, would you recommend doing the Starting Strength or the 5x5 stronglift program? Where you squat every time you're in the gym. Supposedly, this will release GH and stimulate muscle growth for a beginner?
Also, there is a GOMAD diet plan, which basically means in addition to regular 5 times a day meals, you have to drink 1 gallon of milk per day, do you think this is also good?

Also do you have any good recipes (tasty) for making chicken?

what would be a good meal plan for a hard gainer? Let's say someone thats 140 pounds, 5 feet 8 inches, ectomorph body type.

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Nov 19 2010 12:41pm