I agree it tastes better, but not really better for the diet if we mix with milk or ice cream.

this is not true. After a workout, mixing a shake with ice cream is beneficial. The sugar from the ice cream will increase your insulin production which in turn jacks up protein synthesis. Thats why you are supposed to eat sugar after a workout. But 2% skim milk with shakes are perfectly fine, even if on a cutting cycle. If you are bulking, use whole milk...very helpful.

oh ya, little milk, ice, banana, peanutbutter, and choc shake.. perfect.


Oh and are there more things I can add to me back work out ?

I'm doing dead lifts, rows and squats, and I'm up to quite a bit of weight, I feel like my back is my best by far.

so what can I add ?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Middle+Back

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Lower+Back

those are all the exercises you can choose from =)

Dairy products tend to make you hold subcutaneous water, this is water between the muscle and the skin extecellular. You do not want this as a bodybuilder. It makes you look smooth and absolutly veinless. I have to agree we can use it, but in moderation, and post workout isn't that bad because it goes mostly in your muscles. But if we're a purist or preparing for a competition, I would not recommand taking your shake with milk or ice cream.

He never said icecream He just said "ice"

oops!
my bad, keep up the good work

This post was edited by EricEroc on Nov 9 2008 06:34pm

this is mentioning pre-competition bodybuilding. This thread most certainly does not revolve around something so specialized. Dairy is a huge part of any proper bulking cycle. For 99.9% of people, especially those who read this thread - pre-comp diet and preparations are not necessary. if such was necessary, i would reply to it in kind.

Instead I give more broad answers for the overall mass of people looking to get in shape. Dairy is a great source of slow digesting protein, good fats to help stimulate metabolism, and lactose which has a small effect on blood sugar.

Mixing shakes with milk is totally acceptable for anyway, except pre-comp.

Whole milk - bulking
2% milk - cutting
no milk - pre-comp

Try not to get too technical in this thread - this is for everyone to get answers, not to get nitpicky.

TIP OF THE DAY:

Eating not enough protein will prevent muscular gain, and can lead to fat increases. Try to consume at least 1gram of protein per pound of bodyweight each day. However, it is best to eat fast digesting proteins in the morning and before/after a workout (whey, chicken, turkey, tuna, eggs, fish) and slow digesting proteins (casein, milk, cheese, cottage cheese, yogurt) before bed or right after leaving home for work/school.

Looking for a simple diet for slow steady gains, no eggs or fish plx =) thank you